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I happened upon this video this evening as I was perusing YouTube.

Warning: There is some language but it's kept pretty much under control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0

So, how do you feel about nitrogen in your tires? Are you for it or do you prefer to use air?


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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

Nice video!
I use air.
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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

We used Nitrogen in racing. Benefit was less pressure buildup over the course of a run. Less buildup lead to more predictable handling and less dramatic change in handling. Regular air would typically gain approx. 5lbs of pressure, with tire temperatures between 250 and 300*F. Nitrogen under the same circumstances would gain between 2-3lbs. As stated in the video it was a small gain, but over the course of 50-100 laps that could translate to a lot.

Daily driving is FAR from racing, benefit vs. cost is in that situation is no where near what it is in racing. You only need air for tires in your car.
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We used Nitrogen in racing. Benefit was less pressure buildup over the course of a run. Less buildup lead to more predictable handling and less dramatic change in handling. Regular air would typically gain approx. 5lbs of pressure, with tire temperatures between 250 and 300*F. Nitrogen under the same circumstances would gain between 2-3lbs. As stated in the video it was a small gain, but over the course of 50-100 laps that could translate to a lot.

Daily driving is FAR from racing, benefit vs. cost is in that situation is no where near what it is in racing. You only need air for tires in your car.
Yup, I agree!!!
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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

I was unaware people were claiming handling and grip advantages. SMH!


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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

I started filling mine with Smuckers grape jelly. The handling is incredible and it never loses any pressure through leakage it's just too thick to permeate the rubber.

An added benefit is if you are on a long trip or get stranded and you're hungry just get out there and wrap your quivering hungry lips around the valve stem and enjoy a nice treat.

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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

They also claim less oxidation inside the tire and therefore less rotting, less or no rust on rims, fewer issues with TPMS sensors (that actually sounds reasonable!), more stable temps, better handling, better grip, less tire wear, less permeation of the rubber carcass due to a larger nitrogen molecule.

I'm sure I missed a few, but there's a good list to get started.

I'm gonna save my money.

One of the things they didn't really cover in any of the videos I've watched is how to get all of the oxygen and moisture out once it's inside. It just ain't possible to do that without inflating it with nitrogen during mounting.


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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

When we bought my wife's Subaru, the tires came filled with nitrogen, and for that first 11,000 miles, the tire pressure light never came on, but after the tires were changed and filled with air, I have to watch the tire pressure more closely... The car also seemed to get better mileage with the old tires... I think during the first 5k, it got around 33.5mpg, and now it's down to 31 or so.., maybe she's driving faster though, I'm not sure... I use air(and probably don't check often enough)
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Re: Nitrogen vs Air in your tires

I used to use nitrogen and always had better tire pressure stability and tire wear. I won't pay extra for nitrogen so I have been using air. On my old CRX I did see some MPG gains and better handling when switching to nitrogen.

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I used to use nitrogen and always had better tire pressure stability and tire wear. I won't pay extra for nitrogen so I have been using air. On my old CRX I did see some MPG gains and better handling when switching to nitrogen.
I'll happily believe that you got improved pressure retention/stability, but getting better tire wear, handling, and MPG would literally defy physics. Those things are only affected by pressure, and 35 psi is the same 35 psi no matter what gas fills the tires.

Food for thought:
-Improved MPG requires higher air pressure (harder tire = less rolling resistance).
-Improved handling requires lower air pressure (increased contact patch).
-Improved wear depends on the specific tire model's goldilocks pressure.


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