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Official HID Lighting Thread

First off I will cover the pros and cons of true HID's versus stock halogen. The true HID's are not the blue bulbs bought on ebay cheap. HID kits come with ballasts and an HID bulb which is a completely different design when compared to halogen.

Pros-Better light output, less power consumption, longer life (when installed correctly) due to the fact the HID bulb does not contain a filament that can break from vibrations, and some kits cost less than halogen bulbs but some are much better.

Cons-They are illegal if they were not installed from the factory (although most authorities don't do anything to enforce the law), most local stores are not going to carry replacement bulbs or ballasts (this varies though), and in some headlight housings the beam scatters so much as to not offer any benefit over stock.


Some general information when looking at HID kits

- Some places sell "HID-style" bulbs; these are not HID's, only higher wattage bulbs that can melt the factory socket and wiring due to the heat they put out. Watch out for these, they are not worth the money.

- A 35-watt HID kit is the most common and runs cooler than the factory halogen bulbs.

- A 55-watt HID kit runs hotter and is not recommended for small headlamp housings since they can melt. They are brighter, but the beam may scatter more, compared to the 35 watt kit, and blind oncoming traffic. Also, the color temperature will be washed out some. For example, an 8000 Kelvin HID kit will look more like a 6000 Kelvin kit.


Ballast choices

Analog- Larger ballast, consumes a little more power, works well

Digital Slim- Small ballast (thin and about the dimensions of a credit card, easy to hide due to size, works well for gen. 7 malibus due to space limitations behind the bumper cover


The HID color temperature scale (rated in Kelvin)

3000K- pure yellow, meant for low visibility conditions, used in fog light housings

4500K- white with some yellow, good for all conditions

5000K- pure white, good for all conditions, brightest color temp.

6000K- white with a hint of blue, good for all conditions, also good for show without sacrificing much light output

8000K- blue with a little white, it is dimmer and more for show purposes

10000K- pure blue, for show purposes, not good for regular driving

12000K- blue/purple, for show purposes, not good for regular driving





Bulb fitment through the years

5th gen. 1997-2003- 9006 low beam and 880 fog light

6th gen. 2004-2008- H11 low beam
04'-06'- 880 fog light
07'-08' classic- H11 fog light

7th gen. 2008-2011- H11 low beam and H11 fog light


Parts needed (all years)

- HID kit 35-watt or 55-watt and color temp. of choice

- HID relay harness which provides direct battery power from the battery for longer life and less chance of flickering due to small gauge factory wiring

- No error code eliminators or adapters are needed for factory headlamp housings on any Malibu since they do not have a bulb-out warning system


Notes

- Generation 7 Malibus need either the DRL (daytime running light) fuse or relay pulled from the underhood fuse block due to the fact that the HID's will not function properly as running lights. They will flicker and shorten the life span of the kit.

- I do not know for other generations if anything needs to be disabled or not.

- Adjust headlights as needed to help avoid blinding other drivers

- HID's will not work well as high beams, they take too long to warm up and will scatter too much to have any benefit

- Do not turn HID's on and off constantly, this will cause hot starts and void warranties, also the bulbs will burn out faster.


Most of all enjoy the new found increased light output, it is great to have .

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Great write up!


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Re: Official HID Lighting Thread

Someone correct me if im wrong but you can use the high beams as hids as well since the low beams stay on with the high beams in the 07 up models.
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Yes, you CAN use HID's for the high beams on the Gen7 since the low beams stay on during high beam operation. But read chevyguy8893's How-To: they scatter way too much to be of benefit in our housings.


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Excellent write up. Hopefully this will cut down on so many threads about the same thing haha


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Re: Official HID Lighting Thread

My OEM headlights are already much brighter than what I'm use too. Do HID's really offer that much of a benefit?

I would think they make actually offer a benefit to the fog lights if you use 3000k. Is this true?
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My OEM headlights are already much brighter than what I'm use too. Do HID's really offer that much of a benefit?

I would think they make actually offer a benefit to the fog lights if you use 3000k. Is this true?
HID's offer a higher lumen output. For example a 35 watt HID kit puts out 3400 lumens and sylvania silverstar ultra bulbs put out 1700 lumens. There is a noticeable difference.

3000k offers better visibility in bad weather conditions since there is less reflected back. True fog lights are yellow, I have them on my car and they are great.

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HID's still should NOT be used in the high-beams no matter if the lows stay on since as said they will scatter bad, and you will lose your flash to pass.

Also, I would stay away from cheap HID kits. IMO you get what you pay for and just today I had a buddy have a DDM ($35) kit that was installed right have a ballast melt. After some research he said he found others that had the same issue. I have a good ($200) kit in my Camaro for some 5 years now with no issues. I know many have good luck with DDM kits, and I just ordered two sets for the Speed3 and Malibu, but I don't think I am gonna use them until I do more research. I might sell them and get some better kits. In all honestly $35 for HID's scares me. To each their own.

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Re: Official HID Lighting Thread

Thanks chevyguy.

To what Silver is saying, you still have your stock high beams? Do high beams make any difference still? Enough for flash to pass be functional?

I'm considering getting some to have ready when a bulb goes but I don't wan't crap.
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