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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 12-20-2009, 04:46 AM Thread Starter
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I've never been very happy that mine came with Firestone tires. After purchase I noticed which model, FR710. This vehicle supposedly went through a total redesign maybe a year earlier. Did they design it around a 10 year old tire was my thought.
Just past breakin, 500 miles, I traveled about 130 miles on I-95 and became quite unhappy with handling. Major point is play in steering, still unresolved, but feel a better tire would help overall with handling, ride, and noise. I've voiced that opinion to dealer as well. I've even checked on some new tires, but also had nagging feeling that I've finally figured out.
My window sticker, just below the wheels on vehicle, clearly states "touring tires". Firestone FR710 are NOT "Touring Tires".

I've checked the Firestone/Bridgestone website and other sellers of this tire and it shows up as "passenger tire, all-season". It is definitely not listed as a touring tire of any type.
I also learned that in the size needed there are few touring tires available.
One of the few available unless you wish to go to a much higher speed rating is the Michelin Primacy MXV4, grand touring all season.

Did GM think no one would notice that the tires they installed did not meet the window sticker?
I suspect GM owes many of us a new set of tires.
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Re: Check your Touring Tires?

The Hankooks on my 2009 Malibu (company) car are noticeably better than the Firerocks that were on a rental Malibu I had for a time. However, if the car were mine and I wanted a really nice tire, I wouldn't hesitate to put the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on it. I have them on my other car and simply love the smooth quiet ride with amazing traction and long life. I have 60,000 miles on a set right now, and they're just beginning to show signs of not being as sticky as new. Of course, the car itself also has 60,000 more miles on it so that is a factor in the decreased ride quality too.

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The Hankooks on my 2009 Malibu (company) car are noticeably better than the Firerocks that were on a rental Malibu I had for a time. However, if the car were mine and I wanted a really nice tire, I wouldn't hesitate to put the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on it. I have them on my other car and simply love the smooth quiet ride with amazing traction and long life. I have 60,000 miles on a set right now, and they're just beginning to show signs of not being as sticky as new. Of course, the car itself also has 60,000 more miles on it so that is a factor in the decreased ride quality too.
This is not the point of the thread.
That GM substituted a poorer quality tire, passenger tire for what the window sticker clearly states should have been a touring tire.
My OE size is 215-55R17 with a 93S rating. Tires available in that size are rare even allowing for a higher speed rating such as H. I have moved from S or T to H without negative impact or even went up a little on weight rating.

To expand tire availability, even the one you mention, I'd have to move to 225-50R17.
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What is the definition of a touring tire? You sure do like to complain a lot. You should go sue GM for false advertising. Stick it to the man!

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I bet GM got a good deal on them tires, my Hankook retail for $118 each, good tire.
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"A touring tire is one built to offer a comfortable ride, like a regular passenger tire, but also offer some high-performance features too.
Touring tires are designed to provide a smoother ride than standard tires on the open road, and provide better control and handling. "

Maybe this car is aimed at those who don't know the difference between a YUGO and a Chevy, or touring tire and passenger tire.
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I bet GM got a good deal on them tires, my Hankook retail for $118 each, good tire.
What Hankook shows as OE on Malibu is Optimo H725A, P225/50R17S. It was either a special production or no longer available and maybe replaced by H727, but is not available in that size or even 215/55R17.

Michelin that were used as OE are over $200 each locally. So GM probably shorted me between $400 and $600.
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"A touring tire is one built to offer a comfortable ride, like a regular passenger tire, but also offer some high-performance features too. Touring tires are designed to provide a smoother ride than standard tires on the open road, and provide better control and handling. "
So a passenger tire cant be a touring tire but a touring tire can be a passenger tire?

Regardless, tires are tires. Unless you are buying summer only or winter tires they are all pretty much just all season. There really is no touring, passenger and the like anymore with car tires. Our LTZ has CRAPPY Goodyear LS2 tires on it and they arent considered a good tire by many yet they are on the LTZ, the top tier model.

Want good tires then spend the cash to get them. Most cars these days come with substandard stock tires.

EDIT: Also if you never go away from the OE tires then you will never have a car on good tires. Very, very, very few cars come with good tires stock. The only one that comes to mind is the new Camaro with its Bridgestone tires.

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So a passenger tire cant be a touring tire but a touring tire can be a passenger tire?

Regardless, tires are tires. Unless you are buying summer only or winter tires they are all pretty much just all season. There really is no touring, passenger and the like anymore with car tires. Our LTZ has CRAPPY Goodyear LS2 tires on it and they arent considered a good tire by many yet they are on the LTZ, the top tier model.

Want good tires then spend the cash to get them. Most cars these days come with substandard stock tires.

EDIT: Also if you never go away from the OE tires then you will never have a car on good tires. Very, very, very few cars come with good tires stock. The only one that comes to mind is the new Camaro with its Bridgestone tires.
I'm sure that by now you got my point that the sticker said the vehicle was equipped with touring tires and that is a lie because it is not!

You talk as if parafin based, petroleum based, synthetic, and remanufactured motor oils are all the same.

I and probably many others, after reading many of your posts, now suspect you are a GM Trojan or whatever the proper terminology is. Hopefully everyone takes the word in forums with as much caution as I do.
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Re: Check your Touring Tires?

What?

Im saying that even though you say the Firestones are passenger tires that they could be in fact be classified as touring tires because there is no quantifiable way to classify all season tires. Thats it.

Just so you want to know, our sticker says it comes with performance tires. Goodyear LS2s are anything BUT performance tires.

http://www.camryforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8363

People complaining about the Camry stock crappy tires. Bridgestone turanza el400

On the Fusion they majority of the cars come with Goodyear LSAs which are just as bad.

The FR170 has a wear rating of 560!!! If you buy them they are guareenteed to go 65k miles! That right there means they SUCK. Hard as a rock and no doubt a horrible handling tire as well.

If you want to complain, Id try the dealer and see what they say. I doubt you will get anywhere because like I said there is no real way to quantify what is actually a touring tire unless you look at the tire manufacture webpages themselves. However, then each company has a different meaning. Also, the "touring" tires that should of came on your car could of very well been back ordered and the FR170 was substituted.

FACT: Stock tires on family sedans BLOW.



Sidenote: Ive yet to see a post where you arent bitching about something. So maybe you are the GM "trojan".

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