: Add OEM fog lights to LS
jtblazeltw 05-15-2008, 08:30 AM I was wondering if anyone had the part numbers needed for the fog lights themselves and the plastic trim piece that has the hole for the fog lights, I am looking to add OEM foglights to my malibu it is a 2008 LS.
thanx for any help
WORD! I'd like to know also.
Schwartz 05-15-2008, 11:03 AM Sounds like something I might be interested in too.
08MalibuLeaser 05-15-2008, 11:32 AM Think all models should have had the fogs standard...
Think all models should have had the fogs standard...
WORD!!!!!!!!!
mattman8 05-15-2008, 01:49 PM WORD! I'd like to know also.
"Word!" sounds like someone is kicking old school. Are you gonna break out the cardboard and start break dancing to the Fat Boys or Run DMC?
dsrtdukone 05-15-2008, 02:17 PM "Word!" sounds like someone is kicking old school. Are you gonna break out the cardboard and start break dancing to the Fat Boys or Run DMC?
I'll wear my parachute pants.
I was wondering if anyone had the part numbers needed for the fog lights themselves and the plastic trim piece that has the hole for the fog lights, I am looking to add OEM foglights to my malibu it is a 2008 LS.
thanx for any help
First off, are you sure that the central trim pieces in the LS/LT bumpers are removable? I thought the front bumper was all one molded piece. (Of course the best method is just to get the LTZ from the start. Sooner or later I might even find the right button to turn on my LTZ fog lights.)
DrD
BuckyFan 05-15-2008, 06:59 PM I don't think it will work. They would put a wiring harness in the car based on the features it has. Your malibu most likely has a different wiring harness and therefore cant hook up to OEM foglights. GM wont pay for extra cable and connectors when they wont be installing foglamps on the car....
jtblazeltw 05-16-2008, 12:20 AM I don't think it will work. They would put a wiring harness in the car based on the features it has. Your malibu most likely has a different wiring harness and therefore cant hook up to OEM foglights. GM wont pay for extra cable and connectors when they wont be installing foglamps on the car....
Yeah I know, what I was going to do is just use a relay and use the running lights as the power to trip the relay and pull power from the battery.
"Word!" sounds like someone is kicking old school. Are you gonna break out the cardboard and start break dancing to the Fat Boys or Run DMC?
You know it! I got my Addidas laced and red' ta go!
mattman8 05-16-2008, 10:26 AM I'll wear my parachute pants.
It's Hammer Time
dsrtdukone 05-16-2008, 11:24 AM It's Hammer Time
....CAN'T TOUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!.....
dsrtdukone 05-16-2008, 11:29 AM GM wont pay for extra cable and connectors when they wont be installing foglamps on the car....
That's not entirely true. There are many instances where GM will use a common harness, leaving spare connectors for uninstalled factory options. If the headlights are in close proximity to the fogs, then it's possible that the connectors are there, just unused. I'm not saying that's the case in this instance, but it's not at all uncommon to see this. When vehicle specific harnesses (or parts) are used, then these parts must be sequenced for installation. Sequencing is very time consuming and expensive.
jr_78 05-16-2008, 01:20 PM I like the idea of the fog lights!!! In my dads 2001 Silverado it did not come with fog lights but, the dealer sold me a fog light kit (original) that you could just hook up with the existing harness supply power to it from the fuse box inside the hood! It was plug and play!!! I bought the kit for 110 dollars!! After installation I had to take it to the dealer for programming and thats it!!! I had Factory fog lights!!! I hope its the same for the '08 Malibu!!
bignick 05-18-2008, 07:12 AM I like the idea of the fog lights!!! In my dads 2001 Silverado it did not come with fog lights but, the dealer sold me a fog light kit (original) that you could just hook up with the existing harness supply power to it from the fuse box inside the hood! It was plug and play!!! I bought the kit for 110 dollars!! After installation I had to take it to the dealer for programming and thats it!!! I had Factory fog lights!!! I hope its the same for the '08 Malibu!!
correct, i did the same thing on my 04 gmc. it even came with directions and the new switch. i don't think this is out yet for the malibu. i've pulled the bumper off and the fog light housing unbolt from the bumper and so does the grills.
jtblazeltw 05-18-2008, 07:59 PM correct, i did the same thing on my 04 gmc. it even came with directions and the new switch. i don't think this is out yet for the malibu. i've pulled the bumper off and the fog light housing unbolt from the bumper and so does the grills.
Did you see a part number on those parts??
mattman8 05-19-2008, 08:42 AM You know it! I got my Addidas laced and red' ta go!
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/158610/1315570d.jpg
bignick 05-19-2008, 06:36 PM Did you see a part number on those parts??
didnt really pay that close of attention
08MalibuLeaser 05-19-2008, 07:24 PM Who's drinkin' the Kool-Aid?
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/158610/1315570d.jpg
ROFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08MalibuLeaser 05-20-2008, 04:40 AM How much vodka and red bull is in those glasses, really?
plgtx 05-20-2008, 05:48 AM Mmmmmm...makes me want a glass of red Kool-Aid.....don't know the flavor...just RED...
Mmmmmm...makes me want a glass of red Kool-Aid.....don't know the flavor...just RED...
In MY book....RED is an official flavor...lol
DOACanada 05-30-2008, 11:04 AM First off, are you sure that the central trim pieces in the LS/LT bumpers are removable? I thought the front bumper was all one molded piece. (Of course the best method is just to get the LTZ from the start. Sooner or later I might even find the right button to turn on my LTZ fog lights.)
DrD
Good point about buying an LTZ from the start but some can't afford it out of the gate and when they have $$$ will buy the additional accessories.
For instance in my case I am looking at the LT2 based on the fact that I don't want all leather interior. It's bad enough that the LT2 will have a leather suede combination however I have come up with an idea to protect the back seats....I am constantly moving large power tools around in my car and don't want to run the risk of ripping nice leather interior.
I also would be interested in understanding better how to upgrade to a fog-light setup. I must admit this is going to be one thing I will miss when I get the Bu', my GP has fog-lights, and I use them all the time, I find they really help me out at night.
bignick 05-31-2008, 06:49 AM theyre removable
jtblazeltw 06-02-2008, 03:11 PM This is where I am at now, just dont know if I want to do it,
Part #'s
Left Grille - 25905343
Right Grille - 25905344
Fog Light - 25829654 - Order 2, one for each side, not sure if it is a direct bolt on or if you need to buy any type of bracket, from what I could find you do not need anything else but some bulbs and an aftermarket wiring harness for the bulbs.
DOACanada 06-03-2008, 12:38 AM jtblazeltw
Did you get an cost information on the fog lights? This would be useful information.
Hope to find out if you did this mod or not?
USA1fan 06-03-2008, 04:23 AM I have a beach towel I put over the rear seat to protect it. The leather seems like it should be really durable though. I read something elsewhere not long after I bought the 2007 Avalanche saying that GM coats the leather seats with a rubbery material to protect them. Both the Av and the bu seats feel like that's true- kind of hard leather. The wife's Trailblazer has very soft leather, just to contrast the difference. I worry about something sharp catching in hers, but not so much in mine.
jtblazeltw 06-03-2008, 07:44 AM Cost:
Item GM List GMPartsDirect.com w/o S&H All in USD
25905343 $62.58 $38.40
25905344 $62.58 $38.40
25829654 $112.76 $70.37
GMPartsDirect.com with S&H estimate = $335.40
Might be cheaper through your dealer if you have any connections. I can get it from my dealer for about $255.
DOACanada 06-03-2008, 08:01 PM I have a beach towel I put over the rear seat to protect it. The leather seems like it should be really durable though. I read something elsewhere not long after I bought the 2007 Avalanche saying that GM coats the leather seats with a rubbery material to protect them. Both the Av and the bu seats feel like that's true- kind of hard leather. The wife's Trailblazer has very soft leather, just to contrast the difference. I worry about something sharp catching in hers, but not so much in mine.
Thanks for the info....good to know!
DOACanada 06-03-2008, 08:01 PM Cost:
Item GM List GMPartsDirect.com w/o S&H All in USD
25905343 $62.58 $38.40
25905344 $62.58 $38.40
25829654 $112.76 $70.37
GMPartsDirect.com with S&H estimate = $335.40
Might be cheaper through your dealer if you have any connections. I can get it from my dealer for about $255.
Is this the NET for one fog light? Or would this be the conversion for the set of fog lights?
Doesn't seem to unreasonable to me in order to get the factory look.
Cheers.
jtblazeltw 06-04-2008, 07:34 AM The NET is for two fog lights, you have to order two of them, they are the same part for right and left, as I said before you will need to get some bulbs and a wiring harness from your local auto part store and wire it up, you will not have a button on the dash, I was just going to wire them into the parking lights with a Relay, pull the power from the battery and use the running lights to trip the relay.
autopat 06-09-2008, 03:00 AM "Word!" sounds like someone is kicking old school. Are you gonna break out the cardboard and start break dancing to the Fat Boys or Run DMC?
That is hilarious, I started reading this just as LL Cool J (I'm Bad) came on the radio!
Yefeng 08-28-2008, 10:42 PM I went to my GM dealer here in Canada and he quoted me $604 for the fog lamp assembly. He also told me there is no harness needed for it so that there IS a plug for it somewhere (might only be canadian models)
But thats $300 MORE then for you guys...... ouch!!!!!
I might just get the two grills and get different fog lamps custom installed
jfb423 08-29-2008, 06:53 AM Here is what I went through for OEM fogs there are 2 designs on grilles but fogs are the same that is what I was told by my parts department.I guesss that there are 2 different sizes???:confused:But the ones I got were fine.FYI installed yellow xenons in fogs(H11's)
Yefeng 08-29-2008, 08:57 AM yea I want to get 3000k Fogs would look great with 8000k Headlights.....love white car with yellow fogs and blue headlights.... looks nice~
but for $604 thats a little too pricey for me
DOACanada 08-29-2008, 10:37 PM Here is what I went through for OEM fogs there are 2 designs on grilles but fogs are the same that is what I was told by my parts department.I guesss that there are 2 different sizes???:confused:But the ones I got were fine.FYI installed yellow xenons in fogs(H11's)
Any pic's of them installed?
chillyraider 06-16-2009, 08:30 PM Did anyone every confirm if the existing LT2 wiring harness already has fog light wiring in it? I have the grille and fog lamp housings installed, as well as the factory dash switch in my LT2. Was planning on buying pigtails for the lamps and wiring myself, but if there is already wiring there, I'll take it in and have the dealer hook it all up.
Thanks
~chilly
shadowflare99 07-13-2009, 08:45 PM Hey i want to understand
i only need to command :
Part #'s
Left Grille - 25905343
Right Grille - 25905344
Fog Light - 25829654
on my dealer ... and add a h11 HID kit and that it ??
it will be fit on a my malibu 2008 2LT ?
nhance 08-07-2009, 07:10 AM Show pics when you get it done.
pacomutt 08-08-2009, 05:42 AM Why even bother with factory fog lights? If they're anything like the OEM's on my '02 Malibu, they won't even light-up a bathroom! Look for a set of PIAA or similar lights and make 'em fit.
Marshmellow_Malibu 10-12-2009, 10:17 AM can anyone confirm if i need a wiring harness for my LS?
A_Singh 12-19-2009, 07:03 PM I am in the same situation. I just recently installed 8k HID and my next step is to get the foglamp kit. I hv a LT2, but im not sure if the harness is there tucked in somewhere.
A_Singh 12-19-2009, 07:04 PM Also does neone hv pics on how this looks on an LT or LS?
mixdawg1 02-06-2010, 06:19 AM LISTEN UP FELLOW LS AND LT OWNERS!!!! I recently had OEM FOG LIGHTS INSTALLED on my 09 Malibu (along with ltz taillights) The harness for the foglight is tucked away around the bumber area. When getting fog grills REMEMBER the grills for the 08 are different than the ones on the 09-10. Now the only problem is your GOING to have to get GM to reflash your system. Cost of Labor was $115. I brought the parts needed off newgmparts.com. LS AND LT OWNERS CAN NOW CRUISE IN STYLE WITH FOGLIGHTS NOW W/O PAYING FOR THE OVERPRICED LTZ. NEXT ON MY LIST CUSTOM SUEDE COCOA CASHMARE INTERIOR.
elcompaLalo 02-06-2010, 07:01 AM mixdawg, thanks for the heads up on the parts. My only question is the $115 you paid only for the re-flash or was that the total including install?
crm2019 02-06-2010, 07:44 AM mixdawg, thanks for the heads up on the parts. My only question is the $115 you paid only for the re-flash or was that the total including install?
Whats the reflash for? Also, when you used the factory harness, did you get the factory switch for the inside? Post some pics please!
mixdawg1 02-07-2010, 04:10 AM that included install and reflash. just buy the parts from that site I posted cuz the dealers charges full price and its 80 bucks alone for one fog grill and 150 for 1 fog housing. @crm2019 the reflash is for the computer to know that a fog light switch is present. Pics up soon. just gotta buy a camera.
elcompaLalo 02-07-2010, 08:15 PM Cool deal, thanks for clarifying. Thats not bad at all, but I think I would still tackle the install just to save some $$ though. Can't wait to get it done.
tk-mpl 02-12-2010, 04:46 PM Does anyone have pics of the fog lights turned on. I would really like to get fog lights, but I am curious if they will give me more light. I do alot of night driving and could use the extra light. I would also light to see any aftermarket kits also.
Thanx
Trevor
DrivenDaily 02-12-2010, 09:17 PM I mounted a set of PIAA driving/fog lamps in the center grille on the bottom, which is the same height as the factory fog lights. I don't like them there and when better weather comes along I'm moving them higher, behind one of the upper grilles, and I won't be cutting any holes in it. The reason for this is because the light is too close to the road to actually do me any good. I had them on a truck and on another car before this. When they're mounted up higher I can see a lot better because of how the light hits the road. Down low all I seem to be doing is burning up ants!
My suggestion to you, if you need extra light during low beam driving, is to get a set of white or yellow (not amber, which is darker) fog lights that have a well-controlled beam (like my projector fog lights) and mount them at about the same level as the headlights. You'll get more use from the light emitted and you won't need to cut your grille to do it. If the light is well-controlled you'll be able to use them with oncoming traffic without getting a lot of flashes.
mixdawg1 02-16-2010, 03:30 AM have pics on fogs installed on profile. dont know how to upload to this topic. will have night shots once yellow hids are installed.
mixdawg1 02-16-2010, 03:33 AM and heads up, if you have to find where the headlight harness starts to find the fog harness to connect to lights and junction box. the fog switch will be where the start of the harness that connects your dimmer switch.
oldsfan 02-27-2010, 05:55 PM Beware, folks. Based on what I read in the threads on this forum, and what I looked up in the GM parts catalog, I went and spent $400 on fog light parts. I am a parts counterman in a Chevrolet dealership and my buddy is one of our mechanics. If anyone can make fog lights work, we can. He poked around my car today and there is no fog light wiring. No leads for the fog lights, no lead for the dash switch, and no connectors in the junction block for the fog light relay or fuse. Fog lights cannot be added to my car. Do your homework before spending any money on parts. Don't want you to be disappointed like I am. :(
I wondered why if this was so easy, there wasn't an accessory package...
Paul
shadowflare99 02-28-2010, 12:53 AM Beware, folks. Based on what I read in the threads on this forum, and what I looked up in the GM parts catalog, I went and spent $400 on fog light parts. I am a parts counterman in a Chevrolet dealership and my buddy is one of our mechanics. If anyone can make fog lights work, we can. He poked around my car today and there is no fog light wiring. No leads for the fog lights, no lead for the dash switch, and no connectors in the junction block for the fog light relay or fuse. Fog lights cannot be added to my car. Do your homework before spending any money on parts. Don't want you to be disappointed like I am. :(
I wondered why if this was so easy, there wasn't an accessory package...
Paul
Yeah but We can buy original fog light with original trim and change part on the bumber .. for wiring ... we juste need to add it ... fog light is not a big install, after that you can add a relay on night light, when you photocell turn on your indash light, it can switch on your fog light ... that it !
OR you can buy the switch from your dealer and add all the wire ... it's complicated but more clean installation ....
DrivenDaily 02-28-2010, 04:46 AM Or just use the blank filler on the left of the dimmer and install your own lighted switch like I did. I ran the wires out to the fuse block area under the battery cover, found the high, low, and park wires, then wired the circuit to work. My fog lights are PIAA projectors with driving lights in the same housing, so that's why I needed the high signal. I chose to allow my fogs to be on when the key is on, parks are on, and high beams are off. Simple wiring on the relays. And since the lighted switch just tells me that the circuit is energized I added an LED to tell me when the fogs were actually operating. Clean install, no dealer involvement, and no reflash to "see" the fog light switch. I can leave the switch, LED, and wiring for the next owner and move the lights to my next car, too!
tk-mpl 02-28-2010, 09:38 PM pics.............anybody??
Speed_Freak5150 02-28-2010, 10:41 PM Might want to check http://www.gmpartsdirect.com
This is what their pricing is based on the part numbers that were listed
*25829654 $96.69 x2 =$193.38
*25905343 $43.74 x1 =$43.74
*25905344 $43.74 x1 =$43.74
total price =$280.86
with shipping Non-NC Residents Total: =$342.64
Through http://www.newgmparts.com
*25829654 $114.35 x2 =$228.70
*25905343 $51.73 x1 =$51.73
*25905344 $51.73 x1 =$51.73
Total price =$332.16
estimated shipping =$33.22
Total with shipping =$365.38
Brianc538 03-13-2010, 10:38 PM Has anyone confirmed if this will indeed work? I looked at the part numbers for the grille pieces and it says without fog lights! Also, what about the factory fog light switch?
I have a 2008 LS and would love to do this and keep it stock but it seems lots of different stories are on here.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Silver LTZ 03-13-2010, 10:47 PM Has anyone confirmed if this will indeed work? I looked at the part numbers for the grille pieces and it says without fog lights! Also, what about the factory fog light switch?
I have a 2008 LS and would love to do this and keep it stock but it seems lots of different stories are on here.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Don't know if anyone has added 100% factory fogs yet....
oldsfan 03-15-2010, 07:19 AM I happen to have all of the parts in front of me as we speak. The lamps themselves are 25829654. Same lamp used on both sides. They fit '08 to '10 (and also '10 Buick LaCrosse, '08 to '10 Cadillac CTS and '09 Cadillac XLR).
Grilles are 25905342 RH and 25905341 LH. They fit '08 to '10.
Switch is 15929830. It fits '08 to '10.
A stock set-up would also use a 19116057 relay and a 15 amp mini fuse.
My '10 LT2 has NO wiring. There are no leads at the fog lamps, there is not a lead at the dash switch, and there are no connections for the relay and fuse in the electrical panel under the hood. In order to make the lights and switch work, some wiring pigtails are needed. 12085498 is the pigtail for the fog light bulb (you'll need one for each) and 12102900 is the pigtail for the dash switch. All the rest of the fog harness will have to be hand fabricated. An aftermarket relay and in-line fuse will have to be installed, unless you spend the money for the electrical panel which is set up for fog lamps (part numbers vary by engine and emission system). Wiring will need to be run from the switch to the BCM, and then to the lights, with the in-line fuse and relay in there somewhere. The BCM will need to be programmed to recognize the fog lamp switch.
It is do-able, but the wiring will be a pain. I read this forum carefully, and checked my forward lamp harness numbers, and I was under the impression that the wiring was already there. Such is not the case - at least with my car. But I've already ordered the parts, and had the BCM programmed, so I guess we will forge ahead. Thankfully I work for a Chevy dealer and my best bud is a tech here. We will get it accomplished, just not as easily as expected. He has since checked other '10s on PDI's and non of them have the wiring, either.
Another poster claimed that his vehicle already had wiring at the lamps and at the switch. I have not yet seen a non-fog-lamp vehicle with a fog lamp harness.
You may want to search for a wiring harness before ordering any parts.
Paul
Brianc538 03-15-2010, 12:26 PM I appreciate all of the information! If your LT2 doesn't have it, I can't see where my LS would. It is good to have all of the part numbers and I do want this setup, I just don't want a bunch of wiring to have to run. Perhaps I will look at mine and see if I see any hook-ups for the lights and switch.
Thanks again.
mixdawg1 04-01-2010, 06:16 PM http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac182/jboea1/09%20malibu/008.jpg there you have it folks, fog lights on the malibu ls.
mixdawg1 04-01-2010, 06:19 PM http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac182/jboea1/09%20malibu/009.jpgmy signature blue lights to prove its my car.
gopedxr7 04-01-2010, 09:49 PM mixdawg1, how did you wire it?
Silver LTZ 04-02-2010, 05:56 AM Before all you guys go to crazy trying to add these be aware, while they look good they don't add to much extra light. I have them on my car and fog lights just give off a little more light around the nose. That is what they are meant to do. If you are looking for more overall light, I'd suggest HID's.
mixdawg1 04-02-2010, 02:23 PM silver is right. im running 3000k hids. these baby do some justice at night and dont blind other drivers.
mixdawg1 04-02-2010, 02:24 PM mixdawg1, how did you wire it?
sent a private message and i will explain the 2 roads you can take with this. they both expensive but one is half the price.
paradism720 05-28-2010, 05:48 AM I installed the grilles and assemblies for the fog lamps on my 09 hybrid, while I was there I could not find the leads, despite dealer assurance they were there, that being said I will likely wire it myself using a kit off ebay so that I do not need to have the computer reflashed.
I got the grilles, assemblies and bulbs for both sides for 100 + 10 shipping off ebay.
There are a few peoples selling kits that do not include the grilles but include all the wiring. Grilles can be purchased through gm, if you are looking to do it see if your dealer will match the online prices to save on shipping and be more comfortable with local dealer. Enjoy!
awdwhip 06-22-2010, 09:53 PM Just bumping this thread for any updates. I'm very interested in some factory fogs and this is the best thread there is on the forums which covers this install.
elcompaLalo 06-23-2010, 07:40 PM Just bumping this thread for any updates. I'm very interested in some factory fogs and this is the best thread there is on the forums which covers this install.
PM mixdawg1, he has done it and might be of some help.
misfitfsk 09-22-2010, 02:58 AM ladies and gentlemen,
so i did this install and heres the jist of it. the bumper inserts come out by releasing 4 clips and (1) bolt. once removed, simply snap the foglights into the bumper (fascia) the snap the inserts back into the bumper. tighten the (1) bolt on each insert and done!!! rather than messing with my harness and possibly cause some problems or take the car to the dealer and have them reflash the bcm i used (2) hid relays to trigger the headlight and folight hid kits. look below for an instructional.
parts.
Rockauto.com for the bumper inserts.
Part #'s
#25905341 Left insert $35.79
#25905342 right insert $35.99
#25829654 Foglights 59.79 each (2) needed.
hid_warehouse (ebay store) give or take $40 per HID kit. (2) required.
hid_warehouse (ebay store) $6 per hid relay (2) needed.
total in parts (without shipping) is $243.36.
when you wire the 1st HID relay you only utilize (1) headlight socket (the driver's side only ). the drivers side socket runs both the left and ride side headlights (meaning you have the passenger side socket left doing nothing but hanging around). wire the headlight hid kit per the instructions.
now, this leaves us with the the foglight kit and relay. for this you'll need about 4ft of wire (2 pieces) not sure of the gauge but youll get a couple of pieces on the hid bulbs (connectors come too) (wires are red and black). so the lonely passenger headlight socket that was not used, this is where it comes into play. use the extra piece of wire that comes with the hid bulbs. cut them in half solder the 4ft of wire between the cut and connect it to the passenger side socket. run the wire to the (2) hid relay by the battery.
if you have any other questions let me know. gotta get back to work. lol
kencar10 09-22-2010, 04:56 AM Thanks misfitfsk.
If you wanted to simplify this whole thing, could you not just install the grill pieces and the fog lights from GM, then just tap the wires into your headlights? The fog lights would always be on, but you would not need to mess with a lot of wiring, a switch, or getting the car re-programed to recognize them.
Could it be this simple?
Mali27 09-22-2010, 10:20 AM Simplest way would be just to get a OEM fog light switch and wire that to the fog lights, you can tap into a power source in the fuse box and your set.
DrivenDaily 09-22-2010, 03:55 PM You'd be wise to add a relay. Using the mercilessly thin headlight wires to also power a fog light could overload them. Even if the fuse didn't blow the wires could be damaged.
Use the 12V from the headlights to power the relay coil, then use a separate fuse from the battery to the relay's second circuit to power the fogs. They'll be protected properly, get plenty of power to be bright, and won't endanger the headlight circuit one iota. Yes, a little extra work, but taking care of stuff takes a little effort.
kencar10 09-23-2010, 05:09 AM You'd be wise to add a relay. Using the mercilessly thin headlight wires to also power a fog light could overload them. Even if the fuse didn't blow the wires could be damaged.
Use the 12V from the headlights to power the relay coil, then use a separate fuse from the battery to the relay's second circuit to power the fogs. They'll be protected properly, get plenty of power to be bright, and won't endanger the headlight circuit one iota. Yes, a little extra work, but taking care of stuff takes a little effort.
Yeah, this would be a good thing to do. I'm not looking to add them, just figured even with adding a fuse and relay, much simpler to hook up this way and skip running wires thru the dash and to a switch.
misfitfsk 09-23-2010, 03:08 PM well had some a$$hole back into me this morning so ill be removing my center grille. since ill have to take the bumper off again, ill be taking pictures of everything i did. my previous write up seems confusing now that i read it. stay tuned. ill be explaining how to remove the fascia, how to install hid kit and how to add oem foglights that turn on with the head lamps. (without cutting into your harness, dont want you guys under warranty to do any damage).
anyway give me 2-3 weeks while i get the part from ebay.
thanks,
snowleopard 11-19-2010, 07:36 AM Ok, so I've read this and searched high and low and think I might know, but I wanted to ask.
First, I'm going to (at some point) purchase the fog-light grilles and fog-light assembly (if nothing else, it looks cool, even with no light, style wise!).
I do not want to reflash the bcm thingy (I don't trust it personally even if gm does it) and I don't want a crap ton of wires hanging around (i.e. using eight feet of wire and tapping into this and relaying that and hid's here and yada yada yada).
So, really simple question. Is there a -simple- (or mostly simple) way to just somehow make the fog lights come on with the headlights?
I ask it that way because I don't want to drill or make any holes anywhere either, so I don't want to get a switch and jimmy rig into the inside.
If there is not, that's ok, I'll just get them for the style :)
Brossard 11-19-2010, 08:23 AM So, really simple question. Is there a -simple- (or mostly simple) way to just somehow make the fog lights come on with the headlights?
I ask it that way because I don't want to drill or make any holes anywhere either, so I don't want to get a switch and jimmy rig into the inside.
X2 ! as I just got my grills and the fog light assemblies without the lamps.
What kind of long lasting lamps do you recommend as I don't want to replace these every month because they are burned.
Thanks in advance !
DrivenDaily 11-19-2010, 03:04 PM Ok, so I've read this and searched high and low and think I might know, but I wanted to ask.
First, I'm going to (at some point) purchase the fog-light grilles and fog-light assembly (if nothing else, it looks cool, even with no light, style wise!).
I do not want to reflash the bcm thingy (I don't trust it personally even if gm does it) and I don't want a crap ton of wires hanging around (i.e. using eight feet of wire and tapping into this and relaying that and hid's here and yada yada yada).
So, really simple question. Is there a -simple- (or mostly simple) way to just somehow make the fog lights come on with the headlights?
I ask it that way because I don't want to drill or make any holes anywhere either, so I don't want to get a switch and jimmy rig into the inside.
If there is not, that's ok, I'll just get them for the style :)
Yes, there is a simple way.
Use the low beam wire to supply power to the coil of a relay and ground the other coil terminal, then run battery power through a 20A or 30A fuse to the Common contact of the relay and wire the fog lights to the Normally Open contact.
Done, simple, no drilling.
To save splicing into the low beam wire you can get an Add-A-Circuit for one of the fuses inside the fuse box next to the battery. You can also use one to get the battery power. Two easy solutions for the wires without cutting or splicing.
X2 ! as I just got my grills and the fog light assemblies without the lamps.
What kind of long lasting lamps do you recommend as I don't want to replace these every month because they are burned.
Thanks in advance !
The factory-style fog lights use the same bulb as the low beams, an H11. If you go to the auto parts store you'll probably see various kinds of H11 bulbs. What you're looking for is the one that has "LL" on the end. It stands for Long Life. They last longer by miles!
Brossard 11-19-2010, 07:42 PM Driven... Thanks for your recommendation !
Alfred Jaeger 02-03-2011, 01:11 PM Hi, i bought the grills and foglights from rockauto but i can not see where the lamps mount on to. Any help will be much wellcome. Alfred jaeger.
misfitfsk 02-03-2011, 09:22 PM He fog lights mount onto the fascia and the grill goes mounted on the fascia too. You can say the fog lights are sandwhiched between the fascia and the grilles.
DrivenDaily 02-04-2011, 03:26 AM The fog lights have 2 pieces to completely mount them, the replacement piece for the non-LTZ filler and the fog lights themselves. They pretty much just snap in place but you will need to tighten down a few bolts.
Alfred Jaeger 02-04-2011, 12:04 PM Thanks for the help guys, at 82 years of age it's not so easy to figure some things out. It will be a while till I get to it, as we still have a lot of snow here. Tanks again, Alfred Jaeger.
Alfred Jaeger 03-08-2011, 06:38 PM Hi guys, can anyone from down south help me, I'm in need for the 2 pigtails for the H11 bulbs and also the one for the GM switch. If You have conections to a Pick A Part place and its not to much of a hussle it would help me a lott. Still to much snow here in Canada to get them. If You can help please get in touch with me. Alfrd Jaeger.
pcguy 05-15-2011, 04:15 AM I found a harness on ebay - no BCM flash was required
hooks right up and plugged into the lights
I just searched for - chevy fog light wiring harness
works great! :) :)
GregF70 05-15-2011, 07:57 AM BuckyFan, I would think it would be the other way around. Why make multiple wiring harnesses when it would be more cost efficient (production wise) to make one and just limit it's use in implementation on certain models. I have found many manufacturers of many different items that do this without the consumer knowing.
Maybe the wires aren't going out to the location for the FL's, but the option to plug in is available.
Sorry if I am not understanding, I am not "auto" guy, per say, but just thinking of what other consumer products do, just makes me think that, for the most part, we all have the capabilities of the upper model Malibu (within reason).
motoracer108 05-29-2011, 03:49 AM I did this install. If you want a totally factory Look you need a bcm flash and the harness. The front harness goes into the fusebox and from there it goes to the bcm. There's no way to just plug it in. There's no connectors or hook up installed in the fusebox or bcm. All has to be added manually ( wasn't fun).
Axiom 06-08-2011, 12:37 AM okay guys I talked to the dealer today and I was told that there is only one front wire harness for the malibu regardless of sub model therefore there should be/ will be a "pig tail" that you can attach to make it just like oem. but added relay and switch as well as re flash is required.
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