I often wondered why my pages on chevymalibuforums.com load so terribly slow sometimes.

I realize ads are needed to run a site like this, but WOW, at the number of advertising cookies that my browser blocks.

I mean you got the regular ones like doubleclick, but the time my browser finishes loading a page, its blocked over 25 ad cookies. Is this normal?

Some of these I never even heard of....

vadstorage.com
adnxs.com
revsci.net
mookie1.com
turn.com
adtech.de
intellitxt.com
exelator.com
truste.com
doubleverify.com
media6degrees.com
google-syndication.com
drivingrevenue.com
google-analytics.com
bluekai.com
scorecardresearch.com
autoforums.com
atdmt.com
2o7.net
trafficmp.com
viglink.com

Unfortunately, the owner is not very responsive to request or doesn't seem to be. They have many other automobile forum sites and this crapware cookie add-on's is one way they "make money". Their hoping you will click and buy.

Buying into the site as a "paid-member" doesn't change that for you either.

Keep blocking.

Autoguide is a huge company, that is good and bad. It isn't free to run a site like this as I'm sure you know. If you run a good software there should be no issues as long as you have a decent computer. Site runs fine for me, even on my iPhone.

Also, upgrading your membership will cut back on many of the ads.

FF with ad block is your friend

I mean you got the regular ones like doubleclick, but the time my browser finishes loading a page, its blocked over 25 ad cookies. Is this normal?

Well, that explains the slow problem I have been seeing here. :mad:

Along with most of those cookies, comes an off-site hosted ad.
That means a connection to 25 or so sites for each page loaded.
No wonder it's slow.

When everything is working perfectly, you don't notice.
Just ONE of those sites being a little slow........and it's like your dead in the water.

I suspect that it is only one or two sites causing the majority of the problems.......and a realy responsible owner would root that out and fix it, one way or another but when you run something like this just as a "cash cow", I doubt that will happen any time soon.

Sad situation. :(

Didn't mean to create a controversy here . . .but I think 21 cookies loading from ONE website is a bit excessive.

i just block them all (the ones I listed), but the website still tries to load them.

I said it before and I'll say it agin. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE SLOWEST SITE I EVER VISITED. The story about the many auto sites is BS. I visit numerous other auto sites that look very similar, None are as slow as this one.

i like this site but i have to say this site is slooooooow

Only thing I can tell you guys is PM "Administrator". But, I know that is not the owner, just a AutoGuide employee. Maybe because I use Apples, but It works fine for me, even my iPhones fast.

Maybe because I use Apples, but It works fine for me, even my iPhones fast.

Yes, you have the relative luxury of not having to scan EVERY piece of data that comes down the line for a thousand different naties like most of the rest of us do. :mad:

I don't seem to have any issues. I'm using IE9 on Windows Vista Home Premium. I tried FireFox but it didn't want to recognize the back button on my mouse without having to reset the defaults every time, so I went back to IE9.

I used to have DSL. I ordered 6 meg service but when they installed it a speed test revealed it was only 1.5 at best. So now I'm back to cable. Currently I have 20 meg but I'm gonna change back to 10 meg.

I don't get any pop-ups.

It could be your settings. I'm no computer guru, but I guess it must be set up right.

Not talking about pop-ups.

We're talking about tracking cookies. the site tries to load all them every time you go to a page (which in turns slows the retrieval of the page requested).

For every ad, there's cookies. Also, there are several "analytics" cookies that try to load. Analytics cookies track visits to the website, and other behavior about what you do on sites.

I'm on several other forums ran by this same software, and they zip right along.

I'm not having any issues on my end, but I have firefox setup to delete cookies and everything else every time I close out the browser. This just keeps me from wasting space on my computer. I also run and adblocker on firefox that doesn't allow the ads to load which may be making a difference.

Not talking about pop-ups.


Actually we may be talking about "all of the above".

Cookies, pop-ups and the basic ads themselves. It all adds a LOT of overhead.

I often wish that I still had a browser with "debug" mode.....so you could see exactly what was coming down the line when a page loads. I'll bet that we would be AMAZED at the total amount of "junk".

In this case, I really think that the problem is fetching all those ads and cookies from "offsite" sources, for EVERY page load........but I've got no good evidence of that......except trying to watch the address bar at the bottom and see a blur of stuff fly by.

I don't know what kind of computers you guys are running on, but if you have a computer that was new in 2005 - It's probably time to upgrade. Upgrading your CPU and memory can make a huge difference even if it just browsing the web. Also clearing your cache every once in awhile on your computer can also make a big difference in load times for webpages.

I have not one problem loading up the forums, and even on my phone it is pretty snappy compared to other sites. A huge advantage of upgrading your membership on the forum is the reduction in ads you see and perhaps a faster loading time. Maybe it's time to upgrade?? :)

Well,l my computer is from 2010, and this forum is still the slow3est I have ever encountered. We certainly should not have to pay a fee for decent response time.

Well,l my computer is from 2010, and this forum is still the slow3est I have ever encountered. We certainly should not have to pay a fee for decent response time.

Part of my delay is while the redirects I do in my HOSTS file for places like Doubleclick.NET times out.

But yah, I agree. It's almost protection-racket level.

And to be blunt, I don't see this site being informative enough to be worth paying for (not like malibuclub.ca was, before it was hacked and the owner just said "Frell it all!" and left it redirecting to Google ... sigh.)

RwP

Well,l my computer is from 2010, and this forum is still the slow3est I have ever encountered. We certainly should not have to pay a fee for decent response time.

Have you tried clearing your cache from your browser? Maybe even do a little bit of clean up on your computer.. (e.g. Defrag, Disk Cleanup etc..)

Part of my delay is while the redirects I do in my HOSTS file for places like Doubleclick.NET times out.

But yah, I agree. It's almost protection-racket level.

And to be blunt, I don't see this site being informative enough to be worth paying for (not like malibuclub.ca was, before it was hacked and the owner just said "Frell it all!" and left it redirecting to Google ... sigh.)

RwP

Sorry you feel the information on this site is not worth your pennies. Maybe the fee is worth keeping the forum around and if something does happen, the owner won't just let it go for good. By the way, what are you talking about in the first part of your post about a HOSTS file and a protection-racket level?:confused:

I always do the maintenance on my computer. It's not the computer. It's this site and this site only.

Part of my delay is while the redirects I do in my HOSTS file for places like Doubleclick.NET times out.

But yah, I agree. It's almost protection-racket level.

And to be blunt, I don't see this site being informative enough to be worth paying for (not like malibuclub.ca was, before it was hacked and the owner just said "Frell it all!" and left it redirecting to Google ... sigh.)

RwP

Malibuclub.ca was the worst site ever. Full of riced out crap and 16 year olds. I sure don't miss it...

I always do the maintenance on my computer. It's not the computer. It's this site and this site only.

Something is up if you ask me on your end. I tried no less then 11 computers at work today, Apples and PC's. All loaded pretty quick. I did finally get ahold of AutoGuide and even though he said it works fine on his end, he will look into for you guys.

I tried no less then 11 computers at work today, Apples and PC's. All loaded pretty quick.

That doesn't surprise me in the least.
MOST of the time, this site is pretty zippy.
Sometimes, however, I could swear it's about to die altogether.

When that happens, if I open another window and go to another site, it works fine. Sometimes I come back here and it's still slow; other times after a few minutes, it zips right along again.

While there are a LOT of possible factors, the end-users client being one of them, the fact that several people are pointing out the problem should tend to eliminate that............should.

That doesn't surprise me in the least.
MOST of the time, this site is pretty zippy.
Sometimes, however, I could swear it's about to die altogether.

When that happens, if I open another window and go to another site, it works fine. Sometimes I come back here and it's still slow; other times after a few minutes, it zips right along again.

While there are a LOT of possible factors, the end-users client being one of them, the fact that several people are pointing out the problem should tend to eliminate that............should.

Does this seem to happen at a certain time?

Does this seem to happen at a certain time?

OK, I'm ebarrassed.
I KNEW that would be the next question.......and I don't have a good answer.
I will try to pay closer attention.

MK, no need to be embarassed. You've already supplied a lot of useful info. I have only 1 computer at home and don't access much of nothin' at work so I can't test it like Silver did. But after I read more of your data and what Silver has to say I just might look into my system to see if I can determine more accurately how it's doing.

Very slow site. I'd use this site a lot more often if it was not so slow.

The last several days it has been running so slow that even while typing I can sometimes get several words keyed before it responds. Dunno if it's IE9 or the site, but something's not right.

Still fine for me, I asked AutoGuide to look into it again though.

Google Chrome = Way to go.

Hey guys, I just forwarded this issue once again to our IT department. I use Google chrome as well and it's loading pretty quick. But yea I'll have an answer for you guys ASAP. Thanks :)

- Cayne

FYI, I run Safari and Firefox and it moves along fine. Works good on my iPhone too. I would not recommended IE, as it is the worst browser out there.

I'll say in the last few days, there is sometimes no response at all, improper formatting of the page or extremely slow loading of the page. I have absolutely no problems like this on any other websites. I can have these problems, come back 5 minutes later and the site works fine. No rhyme or reason, happens day or night.

Ditto. I couldn't load a page in IE so I fired up FireFox. Loaded other sites but not CMF. Must've been some issue with service at the local level affecting anyone trying to access it.

I think I'll download and try Chrome and Safari in the near future.

What browser are you guys experiencing these problems with? Google Chrome is a simple browser that uses little resources from your computer and helps webpages load quicker.

Get Google Chrome! (http://www.google.com/chrome)

What browser are you guys experiencing these problems with? Google Chrome is a simple browser that uses little resources from your computer and helps webpages load quicker.

Get Google Chrome! (http://www.google.com/chrome)

Chrome.

It hangs on several of the ads and trackers during load...

RwP

I have absolutely no problems like this on any other websites. I can have these problems, come back 5 minutes later and the site works fine. No rhyme or reason, happens day or night.

This site Locked up on me three times tonight. I went away, came back in 10 to 15 minutes. Everything is fine now.

It hangs on several of the ads and trackers during load...

Add me to the list.

We have several different users, using several different browsers, and (assuming) at least 2 different operating systems, spread (again assuming) all over the country..........so I think it is pretty logical to rule OUT any problem at the client end.

I've been doing this stuff for almost 30 years and it has all the classic earmarks of a server problem or network congestion near the server.
OR.........as I originally suggested, a problem with one of the AD SERVERS at a remote site.

[edit] It might also be interesting, and maybe even useful, to note that some of the really LONG delays I have seen are with posting a reply. Tonight things have been zipping right along......until it suddenly took about 15 seconds for a reply to post.

Like a caterpillar's middle section for me tonight. Stop, wait a while, go, stop.

Lather, rinse, repeat...

Stop, wait a while, go, stop.

...

Hit a new low this afternoon.
Twice during this session, I got a message from IE8 "A script is running on this page causing slow response. Do you want to terminate it ??"
Wording is not exact. It did NOT identify the offending script. Wish I had paid closer attention to the ads that were displayed at the time.

And I thought it was it was just me. I try to view New Posts, click it, count to 12 and it finally appears. Funniest part is that it says my search took .02 seconds. Huh?

I downloaded Google Chrome. It has a lot less lag plus it includes a spell checker. I've decided to use it instead of IE9 for CMF. Probably use it for other sites, too, but maybe not banking until I see how it goes.

I downloaded Google Chrome.

I got the "bad script" warning twice again today. :mad:

I'm about ready to pack it in on this site. As much as I like the info, the absolutely insideous response time is just too frustrating. Not only that, noone seems to even want to address the problem.

I'm about ready to pack it in on this site. As much as I like the info, the absolutely insideous response time is just too frustrating. Not only that, noone seems to even want to address the problem.

It's been addressed and even the admins are getting the run-around. It is a frustrating issue and we know it is causing member-loss, but be assured that this issue has been brought up to the head admin and we, too, are waiting for an answer.

We ask for your patience and be assured that this issue will be fixed.

my page loads almost instantaneously? I've never had any speed issues using mozilla. I do have a custom hosts file and use ABP.

We ask for your patience and be assured that this issue will be fixed.

I wish I had a reason to be as optomistic as you seem to be.............

I suspect that as long as the "hits" stay up and the ad revenue keeps coming in at a steady pace, the people that own it won't be bothered to make it better.

It is, after all, not about helping anybody anymore or even having something useful........but just about making a profit. If that starts to slip, then maybe.

It is, after all, not about helping anybody anymore or even having something useful........but just about making a profit. If that starts to slip, then maybe.

I got a good laugh out of that. This site is considered "slow" and makes very little money FYI. It's primary function is to help members...

It is, after all, not about helping anybody anymore or even having something useful........but just about making a profit. If that starts to slip, then maybe.

No Ken is right. To Autoguide, its all about having a high traffic website to place their ads and generate that income. They seem to have forgotten or don't care what the self help forum is all about. And the Super Admins hands are tied as they are limited as to what they can do anymore. Do you have the Viglink advertisment on this site that adds links to words such as amazon, spark plugs or power steering pump yet? If you don't you're one of the lucky ones.

I see that you do. It's sad. I see a eventual slow death to all forums owned by Autoguide or Verticlescope.

Those viglinks started appearing a few weeks ago. I went into the first post I saw and edited it, only to find the poster had not added the links.

I agree, it's sad to see them putting more and more overhead on a site established as a way to gather folks together and discuss things. I guess it's just like it's always been - money talks, the rest walks.

We've talked to Cayne about removing those viglinks ads, and he put in the request, but in this situation, he's the middle man without the authority to change it just like us.

I get complaints from time to time on fordforums.com about the ads and the slow loading forum. Instead of wasting my time sending it upstairs, the best advice I can give is get a browser that will support the AdBlock plugin, login to the forum and block every ad or banner you can see. Click around from Home, Forum and Active Topics a few times and you'll get them all.

Ad these to the filter list as shown with the ^ and you'll see a great improvment.

as2.autoforums.com^
googlesyndication.com^
2mdn.net^
googleads.g.doubleclick.net^
afy11.net^
doubleclick.net^
redir.adap.tv^
img-cdn.mediaplex.com^

I have FireFox. I can't seem to find where to go to add those to be blocked. I've even used Mozilla Help and can't figure it out. Does anyone know what I need to click on?

For Firefox, DD, Tools, Options, Privacy, Accept Cookies, Exceptions, Block?

When I open Tools, Options, Privacy, I don't see Accept Cookies anywhere on that tab or any other. I have version 8.0 and the Help, About says it's up to date.

Hmmm, am I missing something?

Some websites require cookies to display correctly. I think the Admin and Mod login process requires them too but not 100% on that. The easiest thing to do would be to install http://adblockplus.org/en/ and you'll be able to right click and block what you don't want. It's not a program just simply a ad on that installs within the Firefox browser. And its free too.

**edit, the forum sure looks and loads better with it in place.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/fordforums/Capture-12.png

Wow, that works! :D

I changed a few settings, closed FireFox, then opened it again, and wow, what a difference! Thanks!