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Old 02-20-2010, 06:49 AM   #1
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I recently completed my first oil and filter change at 3200 miles on my 2010 Malibu LT1. I used a lot of the suggestions posted in the forum. This was the cleanest and easiest oil and filter change I have ever done. I purchased the Lisle #14700 oil filter wrench for GM 2.2L (cost about $10) and used this short socket and a 6" extension to remove the plastic filter cap. The cap has the proper torque value written on it of 25nm, which was very helpful. I have two questions. I used a fram replacement filter that came with a new O-Ring for the cap, cost about $9 (not cheap). How often are you supposed to replace the cap O-Ring. I understand you can buy less expensive filters without the O-RIng. My second question is in regards to the proper torque value for the oil pan drain plug. Does anyone know this value?
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:02 PM   #2
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Thanks for the tip on LISLE tool #14700 !

http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=40

Easily found in stock at nearby O'Reilly's Auto Parts for $8.99 plus tax.

I, too, used a 6" extension on my 3/8" drive socket wrench to remove and
re-attach the plastic cap. Made that task easy. This cartridge filter system
reverts back to the type GM used on many cars in the early 50's. Remove cover,
lift out used filter cartridge, insert new, replace cover. No spillage, easy to
reach, quick procedure and I like it again now as I once did on my old '51 Cadillac.

This was the first oil change on the Malibu. Mileage 7892, with 44% oil life
remaining on the indicator (reset to 100% as per owner's manual instructions).

Used AC Delco PF457G replacement filter cartridge. Rather pricey at Wal Mart,
but wanted to stay with GM factory specification part. $8.88 plus tax, though
equivalent FRAM brand was several dollars cheaper, even with the spare "O"
ring included. No "O" ring with AC Delco (made in Bulgaria, by the way).

Interestingly, I found the factory original filter to be a "HENGST" brand, as was the
filter assembly/housing installed during assembly at the Lake Orion, MI, GM plant. Filter made in USA, a apparently a known company (HENGST), but I'd never seen their products, oil filters, or otherwise.


Personally, I'd use a low setting torque on the drain plug and here is why:

The 15mm hex oil drain plug has a grade marking of "5.6". Considering it fastens
into an aluminum oil pan casing, it has to be fairly giving. Even moderate torque
would strip the threads rather quickly, I'd imagine. I used a 15 mm box wrench
to remove. The drain plug is fairly far under the front of the car. Might have
to jack up the car to reach it and position a drain pan under. I'm not a petite man,
so cannot wedge under the car unless the front is jacked for drain plug access and
leverage to loosen/tighten. Can just barely reach the drain plug without jacking, but
it's awkward and I have minimum arm leverage that way.

Factory service manuals have all torque data, but I didn't spring for the $200 + to cover
the 2010 Malibu set from HELM, Inc. (offered in the owner's manual). With past GM
cars, these service manuals have been valuable, especially if car ownership will go
beyond five years. Just a thought.


jaa
Oklahoma
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:47 AM   #3
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I'm not sure what's going on with PF457G. I keep coming across "made in Bulgaria" and (Korea I think?) stuff in Wal-Mart. The ones in my stash are all made by Hengst.

The torque spec. on the oil pan drain plug is 17 lb-ft. I use a clicker torque wrench set to 15 lb-ft, mainly for leverage. Even then, it takes some force to loosen it the next time.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:27 PM   #4
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In all my years of driving and maintaining my own cars i've never Torqued the filter or drain plugs on my vehicles, hand tight is as good as it gets
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:24 PM   #5
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Somehow I knew I'd get grief for that (and, I didn't even mention wheel chocks and orange cones).
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Somehow I knew I'd get grief for that (and, I didn't even mention wheel chocks and orange cones).
There's two types of people in this world - those that are anal retentive and those that aren't.

I feel your pain ....


BTW Malo83, when you say "hand tight" is that your hand or my hand ?
Just kidding.

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Old 06-11-2010, 09:52 AM   #7
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Tell me about my pain. I once saw this guy at a tire shop cranking down on the lug nuts with an air gun. He then went "click, click, click" with a torque wrench (lug nuts didn't even budge). "The horror! The horror!".
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:03 PM   #8
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Tell me about my pain. I tell my dealership's service personnel to NOT use the air guns on the locking lug nut because it'll tear 'em up. Guess what? It's been in for 2 rotations and the lock is already showing signs of being screwed up. Hmmmmm......

Did I mention that they even type it into the computer so it shows up on the RO? Yep, some guys know more than the customers who pay their bills.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:47 PM   #9
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It's gotta be pretty boring to be doing tire rotations all the time. Unless you have really loud bling wheels, I doubt they'll give any attention. If I were you, I'd loosen and re-torque the lug nuts before leaving the dealership. And, yes, I do carry a 1/2" torque wrench, wheel nut socket, and bicycle pump in my emergency box (not to mention the wheel chocks and orange cones).
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You're right about how life is, but I wish they'd just smell the roses for a minute. Their crappy service is already driving me to a new dealer. I don't know if theirs is any better, but it won't be worse (I hope).

I suppose if I were to remove just the one locking lug on each wheel and reinstall it once I got back then I'd solve my dilemma. I could even put an old lug nut in its place so they wouldn't have a Conniption Fit when they did the wheels.

I have a torque wrench, socket, and electric pump, so I guess I'm all set to resolve this beginning right now. Thanks for your suggestion!
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