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08 LT2 - CAI, HID, and lowering springs

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Hey everyone. new to the forum and looking for some help. I have a 08LT2 and i want to put a CAI on it. I searched through the forums and found a bunch of threads talking about how nobody has a CAI for the new bu's. I also read that a 2.4L cobalt CAI could work... Does anyone know if it actually does? and if it does are there any problems with sensors or anything that happen or is the bolt on cobalt CAI good?

Also, i want to lower my cobalt. I also looked through and found some threads but all of the places i have seen have lowering springs for the 6cyl malibu.... i have the 2.4L.

My last question is for HIDs. I know nothing about them and just want to know what HIDs fit best and how much of a pain it is to put them in.

If you guys can help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
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Ok. So i am finally ready to put in my headlights but i have a question about this comment that you have. I am sorry, i just dont really know what you mean. The DRL fuse is the driving light fuze correct? Why does this need to be pulled? Its not a big deal to me, just want to understand why.

Also, the relay harness note... are you referring to the relay harness that comes with the kit for the lights?

Thanks for the help guys. i appreciate it.
So i have one more question. I bought a lot of my parts from RockAuto.com (after my accidents with deer this year) and i saw that they have the LTZ fog light parts for cheap. Since the LTZ bumper is literally the same as the LS and LT bumper i am thinking of buying them and putting them on.

I know that the LT does not have the wiring harness for it but i was thinking to just run my own electrical for it. I would then run it off of the empty fuse for the fog lights.

Any thoughts on this? Also, RockAuto.com sells the factory switch and bulb connector/harness.

Now this is where i am stumped. On this website

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/AutoLRG-Results.htm

it says that the driving lights and the fog lights are both H11 bulbs. Since i am putting 5000k 's in the driving lamps, i want the fogs to match.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

Should i but a second 5000k HID kit for the fog lights then? If so do i even need the HID harness since i would be wiring it myself? And is it possible to run it through an empty fuse?
The DRL fuse and/or relay needs to be pulled if you don't want your new HIDs to be on all the time. The DRLs also use a method to lower the voltage to the low beams during DRL mode, which will put your ballasts in danger of premature failure.

Using a relay and harness from the HID supplier will cause your HIDs to get full voltage even during DRL mode. This reduces the danger from low voltage failure.

Early non-LTZ models had the factory fog light wiring in some, so check yours to see if it exists. If so, then all you'll need to do is install the lights and switch, plug in the harness connectors, and have the BCM reflashed to "see" the switch and lights.

If you don't have the harness and still want to use the factory switch, be forewarned that it is a momentary contact switch, not one that turns on when pressed and off when pressed again. I made a schematic and parts list available for another member who wanted to use the factory switch and lights but not the wiring. It involves doing a little bit of wiring, but if you're up to it, it isn't all that difficult.

If you don't want to do something that involved then you're better off getting a "regular" switch and have it turn a relay on and off. The relay will turn the lights on and off.

Your driving lights (aka low beams) can be 5000K for great light output, but you may want to consider using 2400-3000K for your fogs. That would make them yellower and more practical in really bad weather, which is their original purpose. Check with chevyguy8893 (use forum search to find his posts) and he'll even tell you that they work way better than white ones.

The HID harness is optional. If you're capable of wiring in your own relay and fuse system then do it that way. If not, then buy the relay kit. It will ensure that the HIDs get full voltage with little or no voltage loss due to the teeny-tiny wiring GM is using these days.

You can run anything you want through an empty fuse, but if the fuse is truly empty (as in Not Used) then there probably aren't any terminals in the socket, or there's only one. But that's what you'll find out when you pop the cover and investigate.
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For the FOG lights, use a 3000K lamp set, so that it helps cut under and through the fog.

I dunno if you can use an empty socket or not- see if it's truly empty, or just is missing a fuse.

If you use a relay and wire your own wiring, then no, you won't have to use their relay wiring harness. Or you can use theirs, and just add to it for your own usage.

From reading the forums here, I've gathered that the factory switch is a momentary contact switch, and the ECU actually controls the fog lights. If so, unless you add extra circuitry, you won't be able to use the factory switch (see the forum postings here about what you're trying to do.)

RwP
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Here is the GM performance intake for Cobalt 2.2 and 2.4. If you compare it to the engine compartment of the Malibu, you can see it's virtually identically positioned. I'd say go for it.

This is a Cobalt with the Performance intake


Here's the Malibu 2.4
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Here is the GM performance intake for Cobalt 2.2 and 2.4. If you compare it to the engine compartment of the Malibu, you can see it's virtually identically positioned. I'd say go for it.

This is a Cobalt with the Performance intake


Here's the Malibu 2.4
So would this work or are we better off trying to use the injen intake?
http://www.injen.com/Galleries/ProductPress/SP7031.jpg

Also, will we need a tune for either of these to properly work?
I'm pretty sure the GM intake does not require a tune, and even if it did, the dealer would have it available.
Also the GM intake wouldn't void the warranty because it's build for the Ecotec engines.
Also the GM intake wouldn't void the warranty because it's build for the Ecotec engines.
So I think I will buy it, lol. I guess I will be the test dummy then.
Let us know how it goes with a new thread. I bet there are a bunch of members who'd be interested in that. Make sure you talk to a Chevrolet dealer first so you don't waste your time/money.
I shall. I am good friends with my Chevrolet dealer so I can ask them and see.
Ask the dealer first. As of this writing we've only heard that a tuner company is thinking of putting out a tune for the Malibu engines.

Dealers don't usually support or offer non-factory tunes.

Others who have put a CAI on their 2.4's have had the check engine light turn on.

Use forum search to find the threads about it and you'll discover it for yourself.
Ask the dealer first. As of this writing we've only heard that a tuner company is thinking of putting out a tune for the Malibu engines.

Dealers don't usually support or offer non-factory tunes.

Others who have put a CAI on their 2.4's have had the check engine light turn on.

Use forum search to find the threads about it and you'll discover it for yourself.
Yea I plan on talking to multiple dealers in the area as well as my local shop I go to. Also, I did some web searching and found if it fits an LE5 (thats what is in my car) it can be made to fit, but we all know that can cost sometimes too much, lol.

I have yet to see anyone put the Injen one or the GM one yet on the Malibu's so I will look into both. I am worried though because of the other users who have tried to put a new intake on their 2.4 are getting nothing but errors.


Edit:
So found someone who had put the injen intake on their 2.4l g6.
http://www.g6performance.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19965

and

http://www.g6performance.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19904
(discusses the actual intake)
post #85 has information about the intake and injen.

It sounds like the stock intake was recreated basically without a shield. And the hp gains/$ is no where near worth it. They too on that site are looking into using the cobalt intake and a tune to get one now. So I will definitely look some more into the cobalt intake and using a tune.
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I came across another intake for the 4 cylinder.

Link

I am tempted to try it. But cannot tell if it is worth it or not.
Early non-LTZ models had the factory fog light wiring in some, so check yours to see if it exists. If so, then all you'll need to do is install the lights and switch, plug in the harness connectors, and have the BCM reflashed to "see" the switch and lights.
Alright, thanks everyone for the help. I have decided to use the factory h11 fog light bulbs instead of using ddm hid's in the fogs.

But from your quote above, what would be the easiest way to find out if my car is wired for the fog lights. I bought my car in june of 08 and i know it was on the lot for a couple months, so the car was definitely an early make, just not sure if it has the fog wiring in it.

Appreciate the help everyone
I came across another intake for the 4 cylinder.

Link

I am tempted to try it. But cannot tell if it is worth it or not.
Please let me know what comes out of your research with the dealer and all. If you do start up another thread with your results or findings, could you reply here so everyone in this thread can realize you have a new thread.

Thanks man
Please let me know what comes out of your research with the dealer and all. If you do start up another thread with your results or findings, could you reply here so everyone in this thread can realize you have a new thread.

Thanks man

I have talked to the dealer. They will NOT program my car to use an intake that is not made specifically for the Malibu even if the intake is for the same engine. I will just have to talk to my local shop. I am thinking I can get them to make me some custom fabricated stuff, including a turbo possibly.
Alright, thanks everyone for the help. I have decided to use the factory h11 fog light bulbs instead of using ddm hid's in the fogs.

But from your quote above, what would be the easiest way to find out if my car is wired for the fog lights. I bought my car in june of 08 and i know it was on the lot for a couple months, so the car was definitely an early make, just not sure if it has the fog wiring in it.

Appreciate the help everyone
Reach up around where the fog lights would mount from underneath. Nearby, if you have the harness, it will be tucked away where it can be found but won't fall down if not in use.
Reach up around where the fog lights would mount from underneath. Nearby, if you have the harness, it will be tucked away where it can be found but won't fall down if not in use.
Good deal. Thanks for the pointer. Appreciate it.
Question

Which fog light kit from ddm is better? or which one do i need? The slim kit or raptor kit? And do i want to use 35Watt or 55 Watt? And what do the different wattages change? Like what is the difference?
Question

Which fog light kit from ddm is better? or which one do i need? The slim kit or raptor kit? And do i want to use 35Watt or 55 Watt? And what do the different wattages change? Like what is the difference?
The one that fits.

Whichever one fits - the raptor is cheaper, the slim is smaller for the ballast.

Whichever you want.

Err - the 55W is about 60% brighter than the 35W.

The difference is 20W.

RwP
I myself ordered the slim 35watt for my fogs and chevyguy8893 has them also. He has pics of his lights around here and on his profile.
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