[campb292]

@Lborgetti
If, as you say, you have pictures to prove your inflammatory statements, please post them. Otherwise, accusing dealers of preying on people with intermittent codes, calling them scam artists, and other unsavory comments isn't the way to gain any favor or get much help.

It had me at "Fretting cortisone". ♥

 

[Lborgetti]

It had me at "Fretting cortisone". ♥

@Lborgetti
If, as you say, you have pictures to prove your inflammatory statements, please post them. Otherwise, accusing dealers of preying on people with intermittent codes, calling them scam artists, and other unsavory comments isn't the way to gain any favor or get much help.

thanks how do I have a picture and on here I would not say anything without proof. This is a picture of what I said.

 

[DrivenDaily]

This is a picture of what I said.

Thank you for providing that so quickly. That's a mess, alright! I've had dealerships and instant oil change places do the same, and worse.

It's the level of expectation that's lacking, and the folks doing the work live "down" to the expectation. I'd get on a soap box about now, but there's no need to waste my breath.

Everyone gets a bit edgy when they've been done wrong. It takes time to learn that sometimes it isn't intentional, just poor work habits and/or low standards.

 

[Lborgetti]

Thank you for providing that so quickly. That's a mess, alright! I've had dealerships and instant oil change places do the same, and worse.

It's the level of expectation that's lacking, and the folks doing the work live "down" to the expectation. I'd get on a soap box about now, but there's no need to waste my breath.

Everyone gets a bit edgy when they've been done wrong. It takes time to learn that sometimes it isn't intentional, just poor work habits and/or low standards.

Thanks I am a woman and I guess they just want to say I need this or that. I am reading and learning a lot on Malibu Forum. i know something was wrong when the service manager no longer worked there next time I came in there. I learned to fix only one thing at a time. I have had diagnosis on my car and was told I was missing two fuses. these fuses were under the hood of my car how do I miss two fuses? frustating that my car is stalling , lights flash intermittently and my friend who rod in my car said it is bad when have a car you can't depend on.

 

[DrivenDaily]

What you should consider before going into the shop is what you'll accept when you leave. If your mind is set so that you won't accept a mess like that, then before paying for it, you inspect the vehicle to be sure that the requested service has been performed to your satisfaction. For an oil change, you lift the hood, pull the dipstick, and check that the oil filter has been changed. For a spin-on, it's easy. For a cartridge, not as easy. Then, if all the physical items meet with your approval, you check for oil spills or other issues and discuss them before accepting it back. For that mess, you could simply say that it's not acceptable and they need to clean it up to a reasonable level.

I've had my car returned with oil stains like your image shows, although not quite as large, but also with oily hand prints on the hood, door, outer handle, inner handle, steering wheel, and shifter. When I sat in the seat with the door open, I saw a small line of oil running down the body near the hinge. My decision that day was to never go back instead of confront them. Now I do my own oil changes, but if I can find a shop with reasonable labor rates where I supply the oil, I'll consider that. Until then, I'm on my back.

 

[dbhost]

Okay I have pretty much every symptom of the BCM connection corrosion issue here, and would like to perform this task. I have removed the passengers side panel of the center console and do not see, or at least recognize the body control module. My manual for this car has yet to arrive via Ebay so I am shooting in the dark here... Attached is a pic, maybe someone can help me figure this out? Where is the BCM and how do I access the connections?

 

[Drunken Elvis]

Disconnect the battery first.
The BCM is marked Delphi in you picture. The two blue connectors are what you want to remove and reinstall a few times. The grey latches are lifted and the blue connectors removed and re-installed all the way, including re-latching the grey levers. The black connector [with center nut] is not included in the recall but it wouldn't hurt to remove and re-install it a few times as well.

 

[Lborgetti]

What you should consider before going into the shop is what you'll accept when you leave. If your mind is set so that you won't accept a mess like that, then before paying for it, you inspect the vehicle to be sure that the requested service has been performed to your satisfaction. For an oil change, you lift the hood, pull the dipstick, and check that the oil filter has been changed. For a spin-on, it's easy. For a cartridge, not as easy. Then, if all the physical items meet with your approval, you check for oil spills or other issues and discuss them before accepting it back. For that mess, you could simply say that it's not acceptable and they need to clean it up to a reasonable level.

I've had my car returned with oil stains like your image shows, although not quite as large, but also with oily hand prints on the hood, door, outer handle, inner handle, steering wheel, and shifter. When I sat in the seat with the door open, I saw a small line of oil running down the body near the hinge. My decision that day was to never go back instead of confront them. Now I do my own oil changes, but if I can find a shop with reasonable labor rates where I supply the oil, I'll consider that. Until then, I'm on my back.

Thanks there was no oil changed I had taken in for diagnosis second time for lights svc traction intermittently.It gets so hard to belief a dealer when a man in the lobby told me the computers were down and the last service manager over charged him $100 dollar for something. The old service manager told me I needed a tuneup and Throttle body cleaned. I had taken my car to another shop to get that work done before going to dealer. Dealer is the last resort. I have had Sham put in negative battery cable. In 2018 my car after driving had to get tow truck. I needed a battery. The new battery post was smaller which was the only work done. I read about battery cable issue on here and my mechanic said Gm cars to use only Gm parts ac delco. So. I will have to check bCM for fretting. I had I wonder why the wiring protection crumbled when I took off the beauty cover cheap GM and cheap plastic parts or wiring. I was told the actuator also plastic goes bad in GM cars I was told takes 6 hours to fix?

 

[Lborgetti]

Okay I have pretty much every symptom of the BCM connection corrosion issue here, and would like to perform this task. I have removed the passengers side panel of the center console and do not see, or at least recognize the body control module. My manual for this car has yet to arrive via Ebay so I am shooting in the dark here... Attached is a pic, maybe someone can help me figure this out? Where is the BCM and how do I access the connections?

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thanks for the pic I will have to do that too your awesome!

 

[dbhost]

Disconnect the battery first.
The BCM is marked Delphi in you picture. The two blue connectors are what you want to remove and reinstall a few times. The grey latches are lifted and the blue connectors removed and re-installed all the way, including re-latching the grey levers. The black connector [with center nut] is not included in the recall but it wouldn't hurt to remove and re-install it a few times as well.

Okay so in / out with the big blue connectors? I saw there was mention of dielectric grease. How would you apply it to that mass of pins?

 

[DrivenDaily]

Unplug and re-plug the blue connectors fully a dozen times.

When done, apply a small amount across the female openings in the blue connector using a plastic brush with soft 1" bristles. Also, apply a small amount using your finger to the pins, being careful not to bend any.

The action of plugging and unplugging is to clean the connections. The grease is meant to help keep the environment from getting in again to cause corrosion.

Also, reach around the back of the Delphi BCM and there's another blue connector! You can see it from the driver's side.

 

[Drunken Elvis]

 

[dbhost]

Unplug and re-plug the blue connectors fully a dozen times.

When done, apply a small amount across the female openings in the blue connector using a plastic brush with soft 1" bristles. Also, apply a small amount using your finger to the pins, being careful not to bend any.

The action of plugging and unplugging is to clean the connections. The grease is meant to help keep the environment from getting in again to cause corrosion.

Also, reach around the back of the Delphi BCM and there's another blue connector! You can see it from the driver's side.

I have a few spare toothbrushes I can use.... For some reason my flux brushes seem to have taken a permanent vacation...

Will do this tomorrow. Not in a huge hurry as the 'rona has been a real bear here lately... I have nowhere to go...

 

[Lborgetti]

I have a few spare toothbrushes I can use.... For some reason my flux brushes seem to have taken a permanent vacation...

Will do this tomorrow. Not in a huge hurry as the 'rona has been a real bear here lately... I have nowhere to go...

Did this work for you? Removing bcd?

 

[JWteach]

Saw there hasn't been a post on this for awhile.
Had the Traction Control/ECS issue. First noticed the cruise control kicked off, my RPM went up, the car slowed down. I switched over to manual mode. The warning messages were flashing on and off. I held the info button down and they reset. Since it has been a long time since it has happened I wanted to wait a few days before I took it into the dealer. Seems to be happening everyday now. Starts soon after I get into highway cruise speeds. Don't notice it much around town. Doesn't keep a hard fail so I might just have a damaged brake control module or a wiring problem. The dealer Service will hopefully find some stored codes to help narrow it down.

That is food for thought! I do know that when my brother-in-law got the car to me, there was a screeching noise after driving for a short distance..no lights, nothing consistent, so drove it more. Finally, a mechanic-friend checked it and found the E brake was stuck. He freed it and no more screeching. Can that brake control module be checked without too much trouble? I could ask the mechanics. Thank you for the info!!!

 

[repairman54]

That is food for thought! I do know that when my brother-in-law got the car to me, there was a screeching noise after driving for a short distance..no lights, nothing consistent, so drove it more. Finally, a mechanic-friend checked it and found the E brake was stuck. He freed it and no more screeching. Can that brake control module be checked without too much trouble? I could ask the mechanics. Thank you for the info!!!

Check the post dates. Nothing on this for over a year. Issue with the brake module would set a code and trigger a check light on the dashboard. No light then no issue.
Stuck mechanical brake issue will not trigger a code or light.