[aliitp]

Hi all

I got a malibu 2010 LTZ V6

i want to buy a GOOD Xenon lights for my car so that my malibu wont lose MAINLY the auto light function as lights would go on or off depending on the enviroment lighting am driving in (u got me??)

i came accross this one online:
http://www.carid.com/2010-chevy-malibu-xenon-hid/notto-hid-kit-77434.html

i need to replace BOTH the night driving lights, and the HIGH beam lights and if possible the FOG lights too

an is this needed as well?
http://www.carid.com/2010-chevy-malibu-xenon-hid/factory-replacement-bulbs-77421.html

and which is for which am quite confused

plz assist me in that
thanks and regards

 

[Silver LTZ]

This is posted in Gen 5/6....MOVING.

 

[aliitp]

lol sry i din notice!
any ideas guys this is pretty simple stuff i guess

 

[Joeyavhu]

All you will need is one kit. The kit should come with all the wiring, ballast/ignitors, and lights. Check out VVME, thats where I got mine, as well as a few friends. Came with Phillips bulbs and they are holding up strong. About $39

 

[aliitp]

All you will need is one kit. The kit should come with all the wiring, ballast/ignitors, and lights. Check out VVME, thats where I got mine, as well as a few friends. Came with Phillips bulbs and they are holding up strong. About $39

so u bought a Philips kit?!
and what is VVME??

 

[RalphP]

so u bought a Philips kit?!
and what is VVME??

www.vvme.com

I personally bought my kits from DDM Tuning ( www.ddmtuning.com ).

RwP

 

[aliitp]

www.vvme.com

I personally bought my kits from DDM Tuning ( www.ddmtuning.com ).

RwP

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits
which one did you pick?

each lamp got 2 bulbs
which makes them a total of four
how come you only need 1 kit which includes 2 bulbs only?
and plz tell me which one did you pick?
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits

 

[chevyguy8893]

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits
which one did you pick?

each lamp got 2 bulbs
which makes them a total of four
how come you only need 1 kit which includes 2 bulbs only?
and plz tell me which one did you pick?
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits

My kit is the digital slim kit since there isn't a lot of space behind the bumper cover for the other kit DDM sells. http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

You will need one kit for low beam and another kit for fog lights. Each kit is 2 bulbs and 2 ballasts. Don't do high beams, the light beam will scatter way too much and won't have any benefit. Plus, HID's take a few seconds to warm up and don't do well with being turned on and off. I only use the low beam and fog lights, and they a bright enough. This may help you choose exactly what you need. http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6098

 

[aliitp]

My kit is the digital slim kit since there isn't a lot of space behind the bumper cover for the other kit DDM sells. http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

You will need one kit for low beam and another kit for fog lights. Each kit is 2 bulbs and 2 ballasts. Don't do high beams, the light beam will scatter way too much and won't have any benefit. Plus, HID's take a few seconds to warm up and don't do well with being turned on and off. I only use the low beam and fog lights, and they a bright enough. This may help you choose exactly what you need. http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6098

it would look real ugly to have one of the lights in white and the other in yellow dont u think?
could u recommend me something to go high beam?
thanks

 

[chevyguy8893]

it would look real ugly to have one of the lights in white and the other in yellow dont u think?
could u recommend me something to go high beam?
thanks

It doesn't look good, but I don't use high beams much at all anymore. My fog lights are yellow and low beams white, but it looks better than halogen bulbs. If you want to match them then once you figure out the color temperature of the HID kit then find a bulb to match. The only thing to watch is running a higher wattage bulb can melt harnesses due to heat, so you have to find a bulb that runs stock wattage or upgrade the harness. The other thing is a lot of the cheap aftermarket bulbs reflect bulb in the housing which looks bad also.

Phillips makes nice bulbs to match HID's and so does Hoen. Phillips is easier to get a hold of though and cheaper, but just as good. Just so you know, if you have the fog lights on and flash with the highs it will wear out the fog lights quicker too do to hot starts which will burn out the bulb and void warranties.

 

[RalphP]

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits
which one did you pick?

each lamp got 2 bulbs
which makes them a total of four
how come you only need 1 kit which includes 2 bulbs only?
and plz tell me which one did you pick?
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits

35W standard ballast. I had them on the low beams (BTW, I'm driving a 2000 Malibu, this might make a differnece to you!), but am moving them to the high beams and putting the halogens back in the low beams (drove one time in fog with the HIDs on ... these 54 year old eyes are NOT ready for more of that!)

I also wired a relay set up to help boost the voltage to the HID and the halogens - the one that DDM sells works great, I just located the proper plugs and built my own out of sheer cussedness I did the same for Sweetie's 1991 Cougar, after changing the headlamps to the 1993 Grand Marquis style and adapting from the 9007s standard to the 9005/9006 quad setup (again, HIDs on high only).

The other choice would be to use HIDs for both bulbs (low and high beam), defeat DRL, and add the four-light mod to keep the low beams on when high beams are on. All three - you really DON'T want to lose lights while the HIDs are restriking and coming back up to full light. Not if you're driving.

Different colors - use something like 4000K for the high and low beams, and add 3000K fog lights (they're supposed to be yellower to help cut through and underneath the fog better, after all!)

Do be aware that the "hotter" the temp of the bulb (i.e, above 4000K), the less of the light is useful - the blue receptors are not paired with either of the green or red receptors in your eyes, but the red and green overlap quite a bit, so it's better to keep those working (why red and green are better colors for low light situations, such as dash lights, tail lights, etc. Easier for the eye to see at the lower levels since the light tends to tickle BOTH receptors somewhat.)

RwP

 

[aliitp]

The other choice would be to use HIDs for both bulbs (low and high beam), defeat DRL, and add the four-light mod to keep the low beams on when high beams are on. All three - you really DON'T want to lose lights while the HIDs are restriking and coming back up to full light. Not if you're driving.

am willing to go this way
could u ralph plz recommend me some kit to do that, am such a noob coz when it comes to cars, its my first car coz
thx mate for all your help

 

[RalphP]

am willing to go this way
could u ralph plz recommend me some kit to do that, am such a noob coz when it comes to cars, its my first car coz
thx mate for all your help

Again, notice that I've got a 2000 'Bu, so I have to look up the light part numbers for your car.

So - according to ModifiedLife.COM the 2010 'Bu uses H11s for low beam and fog lights, and H9s for high beam. PLEASE verify both before going further!

THAT said ..

Start at http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/Apexcone-Raptor-HID-Kit and order the H11 kit in 4000K for the low beams, the H9 kit in 4000K for high beams (note: you can pick whatever color suits you, but any higher in K and it's not quite as good for lighting the road) - I'd actually recommend just doing the high beams for night driving, leaving the lows as halogen, but it's really up to you on that.

If you have the factory fog lights, order the H11 kit in 3000K (yellowish, better for fog usage).

Cost so far: $25/kit for 35W. So up to $75 if you do all three.

Add to that a relay harness (again, there's other sources, but the one from DDM works), such as http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/HID-Kit-Wiring-Harness . This is $8 each pair, so another $24 to do all three.

This SHOULD get you there. So far we're at $99 plus shipping for all three.

Past that, you'll need instructions on how to change the bulbs in your lights (such as at http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f53/malibu-2008-how-remove-headlamp-62075/#post1347164 - which is for a 2008, but RockAuto lists the same headlight assembly for both, so I'm presuming it's the same).

Matter of fact, that whole thread was about doing HIDs in a 2008 - which, again, supposedly uses the same headlights as the 2010 your profile says you have. (Like for my 2000 - I can use 1997 - 2005 Classic instructions, they're all the same there.)

For the relay itself - biggest thing is finding +12V and GND near enough to do good. My relay harness is currently connected to the screw into the fuse box, but again, that's on a 2000 - I'd bet something similar is available for the 2010. Ground was to a new screw into the inner fender, by the battery (self-tapping with lock washers both sides to make good contact, drill hole, sand off paint, install ground, spray new paint over it - black engine paint, but it's hidden by the battery so meh for me. Others will screech and do a perfect color match, that's them.)

I hope this helps enough.

Again, I'd SERIOUSLY consider doing just the high beams and fog lights HID, leaving the low beams halogen for several reasions - the better dispersion pattern (halogens have a distinct filament, HIDs not), the lower glare for oncoming drivers, and the reduced glare in high fog situations. But it's your car, do as you see fit (Naturally!)

RwP

 

[aliitp]

Again, notice that I've got a 2000 'Bu, so I have to look up the light part numbers for your car.

So - according to ModifiedLife.COM the 2010 'Bu uses H11s for low beam and fog lights, and H9s for high beam. PLEASE verify both before going further!

THAT said ..

Start at http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/Apexcone-Raptor-HID-Kit and order the H11 kit in 4000K for the low beams, the H9 kit in 4000K for high beams (note: you can pick whatever color suits you, but any higher in K and it's not quite as good for lighting the road) - I'd actually recommend just doing the high beams for night driving, leaving the lows as halogen, but it's really up to you on that.

If you have the factory fog lights, order the H11 kit in 3000K (yellowish, better for fog usage).

Cost so far: $25/kit for 35W. So up to $75 if you do all three.

Add to that a relay harness (again, there's other sources, but the one from DDM works), such as http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/HID-Kit-Wiring-Harness . This is $8 each pair, so another $24 to do all three.

This SHOULD get you there. So far we're at $99 plus shipping for all three.

Past that, you'll need instructions on how to change the bulbs in your lights (such as at http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f53/malibu-2008-how-remove-headlamp-62075/#post1347164 - which is for a 2008, but RockAuto lists the same headlight assembly for both, so I'm presuming it's the same).

Matter of fact, that whole thread was about doing HIDs in a 2008 - which, again, supposedly uses the same headlights as the 2010 your profile says you have. (Like for my 2000 - I can use 1997 - 2005 Classic instructions, they're all the same there.)

For the relay itself - biggest thing is finding +12V and GND near enough to do good. My relay harness is currently connected to the screw into the fuse box, but again, that's on a 2000 - I'd bet something similar is available for the 2010. Ground was to a new screw into the inner fender, by the battery (self-tapping with lock washers both sides to make good contact, drill hole, sand off paint, install ground, spray new paint over it - black engine paint, but it's hidden by the battery so meh for me. Others will screech and do a perfect color match, that's them.)

I hope this helps enough.

Again, I'd SERIOUSLY consider doing just the high beams and fog lights HID, leaving the low beams halogen for several reasions - the better dispersion pattern (halogens have a distinct filament, HIDs not), the lower glare for oncoming drivers, and the reduced glare in high fog situations. But it's your car, do as you see fit (Naturally!)

RwP

thanks really Ralph!
but its really confusing and really worries me that such a kit is sold for as low as 25 USD am worried regarding the quality of this kit, besides i really hate to abstract other drivers coz of my lights :S
am more into going with this kit:
http://www.carid.com/2010-chevy-malibu-xenon-hid/notto-hid-kit-77434.html
was told by their sales person on chat that i need to purchase two kits for both high and low beam (btw ill totally skip replacing the fog lights, at least for the time being )

are they simply enough to do the job? or do i require that harness u provided the link for?

over here this kit is sold almost everywhere
http://motors.souq.com/Phillips-HID-XENON-Light-bulb/7713611-EN/
will it do the trick?

thanks for baring with me really!

 

[RalphP]

They MIGHT work, but I'd still use the harness. The 2000 required extra wiring (which I replaced with a relay harness!) to get enough voltage to dependably strike the passenger side.

That Notto kit looks to be the exact same ballasts I got in the Apex Raptor kit. The thing is, DDM doesn't make much on each kit, but moves a metric boatload of them (and is a distributor to a few of the other companies selling kits!) so they don't charge much markup, plus they get a better price to begin with.

Yes, you'd need to purchase two kits if you're doing high and low beam. HOWEVER - if you're not wanting to distract other drivers, I'd still do high beams and fogs only, leaving the low beams halogens. The only proper way to do low beams is with a projector to keep there from being a "wall of light" coming at the other drivers. And those do cost extra, due to the projector and the need to custom install them.

That Philips kit - it looks like a fancier packaging for the same parts the DDM kit has.

RwP

 

[aliitp]

They MIGHT work, but I'd still use the harness. The 2000 required extra wiring (which I replaced with a relay harness!) to get enough voltage to dependably strike the passenger side.

That Notto kit looks to be the exact same ballasts I got in the Apex Raptor kit. The thing is, DDM doesn't make much on each kit, but moves a metric boatload of them (and is a distributor to a few of the other companies selling kits!) so they don't charge much markup, plus they get a better price to begin with.

Yes, you'd need to purchase two kits if you're doing high and low beam. HOWEVER - if you're not wanting to distract other drivers, I'd still do high beams and fogs only, leaving the low beams halogens. The only proper way to do low beams is with a projector to keep there from being a "wall of light" coming at the other drivers. And those do cost extra, due to the projector and the need to custom install them.

That Philips kit - it looks like a fancier packaging for the same parts the DDM kit has.

RwP

Thanks a lot friend and for the info, i really appreciate it
am gonna get the philips then most likely for:
high/low beam + the harness
or
high/fog beam + the harness
i wish i got right this time (have i?)
ill keep u guys updated with the installation!

 

[RalphP]

You'll need a harness for EACH set of lights ( high, low, fog ) and if you find one that's H9 or H11 all the way through, then I'd opt for one to replace the factory wiring (as in run beside and connect the lights to it instead.)

It's amazing - I've had a couple of folks ask me "Where'd you find HIDs that color?" on the halogen low beams on the Cougar - and when the Malibu hits the road again (finishing up a suspension overhaul - struts died right at 287Kmiles, right at 187Kmiles on them) I'm expecting the same since I moved the HIDs to high beam and put the halogens back for low.

RwP

 

[aliitp]

You'll need a harness for EACH set of lights ( high, low, fog ) and if you find one that's H9 or H11 all the way through, then I'd opt for one to replace the factory wiring (as in run beside and connect the lights to it instead.)

It's amazing - I've had a couple of folks ask me "Where'd you find HIDs that color?" on the halogen low beams on the Cougar - and when the Malibu hits the road again (finishing up a suspension overhaul - struts died right at 287Kmiles, right at 187Kmiles on them) I'm expecting the same since I moved the HIDs to high beam and put the halogens back for low.

RwP

This is totally overwhelming to me!
ill skip the fogs then
and might skip the high beams as well

if i stick to the low beams and with/without high beams
will it be sufficient to just get two kits and 2 harnesses ?!

am sorry if it happened and u already explained this to me, coz due to limited knowledge to these kinda things am unable to comprehend everything u try to tell me, its my fault i know

 

[chevyguy8893]

For the gen 7 malibu's the low beam stay on with the fogs already, so no modification is needed if you plan to go that way. The only thing that shuts off is the fog lights with the high beams on. The light pattern of the newer headlights is not horrible with HID's, they don't scatter horribly. The high beams will scatter horribly, but if you want to go that way it is your choice. If you put HID's in high beams you won't be able to flash people, for whatever reason, or you will ruin you HID's sooner.

As for color temperature, 5000K is the brightest on the color scale compared to noon sunlight. If you want some yellow to it the go with 4500K. I have payed upwards of $200 for HID kits and they are of no better quality than the DDM Tuning or VVME kits, which both have a lifetime warranty. I have ran DDM in three of my vehicles and my friends run them too, all with no issues. I still say it would be better to run halogens in the high beams to actually have benefit, but again it is your car. HID's are not complicated at all to do, just pulling off the bumper is the most time consuming part. Just go with the relay harness to supply direct battery power(one for each kit), one kit for low beams, one kit for high beams, and one kit for fog lights.

Choose by how much you use each light. Unless you drive dark empty roads all the time high beams on all the time will be useless since they will be turned on and off. Low beams and fog lights have plenty of light and are an improvement over stock.

This is what my car looks like from my position driving at night with 5000K headlights and 3000K fog lights.

 

[DrivenDaily]

Dude! You got the glowy gauges! I have an LTZ and they don't glow like that! Sure wish they did...