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No cold A/C and temp Gage on Cold

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I went to drive my 08 Malibu and turned on the A/C as it's about 100 everywhere and it's blowing hot air. I noticed that the temp gauge was on Cold with the needle not moving, though the car was warmed up. I cut the car off and restarted and the needle went uo to Hot and came back down like it is not working. The air worked fine two days ago. Is it tied in with the temp gauge? Could it be something simple like a blown fuse? Any help is appreciated! I have been on the forum before, but it's been awhile, so I joined with a new name. Thanks,

Bob. (was Malibu Bob E)
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The BCM pretty much runs the show. You could have a dirty connector where a plug connects to the BCM, or at the IP. At such low voltages and in such extreme environments it's a wonder more problems don't crop up in humid weather! Last week after a torrential storm came through on a 95* day, dropping a couple inches of rain in a few hours and knocking the temps into the 70's, my car started up and the following messages/lights came on:
Service ESC
Traction Control disabled
Check engine light
Message: "Engine at reduced power"

My V6 acted like it had less than 3 cylinders! Called service the next day and all the lights/messages had turned off. He said it was probably a "soft code" and wouldn't set any permanent codes, and not to worry about it. I took it in for a door needing adjustment (right front dragging on latch). They kept it overnight for "check engine light", put me in a rental, and never told me anything more than the RO stating they replaced my gas pedal, referred to as an APP sensor.

I believe that the sudden drop in temp caused the extremely muggy humidity to condense out on anything it could and the connections to the BCM and/or TCM, ECM, etc. were compromised, but I have no evidence other than the symptoms. But as the car's interior cooled and dried the symptoms disappeared, just not all at once. When I got home the TC light was off but the CEL was on. The next morning it "fixed itself" I guess.

You may have experienced a similar condition as what I believe mine did. (Again, no hard evidence, just conjecture.) If you are past warranty then remove the negative battery cable, then pop the front console covers (both sides), then unplug and plug-in the BCM connectors several times. If you have some non-conducting (I think it's called dielectric) grease, use it after cleaning the terminals with the plugging/unplugging. There is another BCM connector facing the driver's side behind the others facing the passenger's side.
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I don't know what you mean on popping the front console covers? Don't want to sound dumb, but where are they located? Thanks for the quick reply!
Removing - sorry, I was using slang. There is a small opening at the front near the floor. Pull it away from the center console and it will release.

To reinstall, move the seat almost all the way rearward, then insert the two tabs into their holes, then snap the cover back on.
Thanks, gotcha now. I have the cable off the battery and will do the covers in the am when it's cooler! I will report back on the results.
I went to drive my 08 Malibu and turned on the A/C as it's about 100 everywhere and it's blowing hot air. I noticed that the temp gauge was on Cold with the needle not moving, though the car was warmed up. I cut the car off and restarted and the needle went uo to Hot and came back down like it is not working. The air worked fine two days ago. Is it tied in with the temp gauge? Could it be something simple like a blown fuse? Any help is appreciated! I have been on the forum before, but it's been awhile, so I joined with a new name. Thanks,

Bob. (was Malibu Bob E)
I almost guaranty you have a bad/intermittent ECT sensor or its circuit. Without input from the ECT, the ECM disables the AC clutch & zeros out the coolant gauge. IIRC, we just covered this in this forum about two weeks ago.
How expensive or difficult is that to replace? Would that keep the temp Gage from working too?
& zeros out the coolant gauge.
Would that keep the temp Gage from working too?
It would be helpful if you would read the responses more carefully......;)

And it would be helpful if the rest of us would explain the jargon so a rookie could understand it !! :D

What's an ECT sensor and where is it located.....incase the connection to it has come loose ??

I don't remember that combination of symptoms being discussed recently......but that doesn't mean that it wasn't.
ECT - engine coolant temp sensor.
Good advice. Subscribed
Thanks for all of the help. I promise to take my time and read the posts more thoroughly! I tried to unplug the hookups behind the console covers, but could not figure out how to pull them out! So I hooked the battery back up and started her. Everything worked. Turns out unplugging the battery overnight got the air and gauge working again. Hopefully a fluke and I won't have to bring it in! Thanks, Cars are getting like our computers, first thing to do is shut them off and reboot! I hope it doesn't come back again. As asked above, I would like to know where the ECT is. Thanks!
Here's the thread that was discussion this exact issue from a couple weeks ago.

http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7814

My car had the same problem. After fighting it for 5 or 6 months trying to figure out what it was, the check engine light finally came on with a code for the thermostat. Reading up on the code it could have been the thermostat or the coolant temp sensor. I have yet to change either, but it's only happened once so far this year. I'm betting it's the ECT sensor as well.
Here's the thread that was discussion this exact issue from a couple weeks ago.

http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7814

My car had the same problem. After fighting it for 5 or 6 months trying to figure out what it was, the check engine light finally came on with a code for the thermostat. Reading up on the code it could have been the thermostat or the coolant temp sensor. I have yet to change either, but it's only happened once so far this year. I'm betting it's the ECT sensor as well.
I guess I will do the same as you, wait to see if it comes back. Its my daily driver and trip car, but I do not use the a/c going back and forth to work. Though I watch the gauges and will know by the temp if its acting up again. Thanks for the link, lot of interesting info.

Also interested in your sig and the 06? C5 Corvette drag car. I am into Vettes and have a 10 ZR1. Also got a 10 Colorado Crewcab with V8 and a Magnacharger. On different forums for each and always able to get an answer to problems on each. Thanks again!

Bob
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Also interested in your sig and the 06? C5 Corvette drag car. I am into Vettes and have a 10 ZR1. Also got a 10 Colorado Crewcab with V8 and a Magnacharger. On different forums for each and always able to get an answer to problems on each. Thanks again!

Bob
If you want to call it a Corvette. Pretty much just a Corvette shaped body. Only things that is real Corvette is the front markers and taillights. Built Dec 2006, but has a C5 body.


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Here's the thread that was discussion this exact issue from a couple weeks ago.

http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7814

My car had the same problem. After fighting it for 5 or 6 months trying to figure out what it was, the check engine light finally came on with a code for the thermostat. Reading up on the code it could have been the thermostat or the coolant temp sensor. I have yet to change either, but it's only happened once so far this year. I'm betting it's the ECT sensor as well.
A bad stat cannot zero out the temp gauge.
Ok, did not last long, less than a mile and Gage went dead, no cool air. Guess it's shop time. Any idea of the expense in replacing the unit? If it's easy to get to on the 4 cal?

Love the Vette video!
Ok, did not last long, less than a mile and Gage went dead, no cool air. Guess it's shop time. Any idea of the expense in replacing the unit? If it's easy to get to on the 4 cal?
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know what "the 4 cal" is.
Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know what "the 4 cal" is.
Rough crowd here, 4 cylinder
Rough crowd here, 4 cylinder
Speaking only for myself.......or a little dense.

I have trouble decoding many typo's, especially when they are abbreviations to start with. ;)

Now that we have that cleared up, maybe someone who knows can answer the real question.
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My car had the same problem. After fighting it for 5 or 6 months trying to figure out what it was, the check engine light finally came on with a code for the thermostat. Reading up on the code it could have been the thermostat or the coolant temp sensor. I have yet to change either, but it's only happened once so far this year.
During those episodes, was your gauge pegged at C? Was it DTC P0128?
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