Well, the 08 was rear ended the other day while sitting at a stop light. Can still drive it, not the worst damage visually but I know there is more than just the bumper that is messed up. Trunk pops hard and doesn't just close like it used to, have to slam it down pretty hard. The car has 182k miles. I have a feeling insurance will total this thing out. Edmunds shows a value between $500 and $3000. Not sure what insurance uses to determine value. It's been a good car, but hauling the hockey gear has been more tricky than something with more cargo space or larger opening would be. Just wondering if y'all think it might be totaled based on value or if you think insurance will fix it. I'm waiting to hear from an adjuster to know for sure, just hard to sit and wait. It's a 2008 LT1 2.4, AT with 182k miles, a couple rust spots at bottom by back of passenger doors.