[Bedbug]

Guys

Are any of you getting a scraping sound (like metal on metal) when you remote start the car. This only happens when I remote start the car first thing on a cold morning.

If I restart the car with my key -- it does not happen. Its been going on for a week now and it seems to be getting worse. I made an appointment to bring it in on Monday to get it checked out . But as we have to do with the dealers in brooklyn we have to be well prepared or they say "can't replicate the problem" and do nothing.

Thanks !

 

[DrivenDaily]

Yeah. I never heard it or noticed it on my '09 V6, but I've read some posts on here about it happening still. I started my current '11 V6 one cool morning while standing next to it and heard it, but it lasted only a second or so.

The post indicated that it happens when the RS is used and the TCM (trans control module) hasn't been fully energized, which allows the ends of the torque convertor bolts to scrape on the engine block. But once you turn the key the TCM "wakes up" and allows the trans hydraulic pressures to properly locate the TC and Voila! Problem solved.

Here's are links to a couple posts that'll help:

http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16621&postcount=13

http://www.chevymalibuforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48565&postcount=23

 

[tomx20]

I had a similar problem with the remote start in my old Altima. It eventually ended up frying the brains of the starter, rendering it useless, and mostly draining the battery.

 

[08chevymalibultz]

I have had a similar problem and had it fixed! I did not get a mental to mental sound but a cycling noise like a fly-wheel spinning that was misaligned or had a broken spinning wheel tooth sound! Soon as I had put the key in an turned it to the on position, the sound would stop! I had an update on a fix after working with my Dealership with many issues with the Malibu that I had at the time! The original post was titled "Strange Noise Noticed At Idle" DrivenDaily has posted a link to click on to review the Posts' Above!

 

[86lxjunker]

Yeah....mine does it all the time....didnt think much of it...but if you bring yours in and they find something wrong - let me know - I am at 33k - so if something is up - I only have a few weeks left of bumper to bumper.

 

[DrivenDaily]

A new kink - this morning I started my car when it was about 30 degrees. I didn't use RS but instead just got in and twisted the key. When it first started I heard the same noise that we're talking about with RS. I think I'll get it into the dealership soon. But it sure is good to know that these TSBs exist, making it easier to ask about fixes.

 

[jeepgrady]

I also have had a strange scraping sound when starting the car with my ket only happened twice, once being this morning. Very strange sound almost like there is no oil.

 

[elcompaLalo]

Wow, is this something only happening to all you out there living in the colder climates? Hate to think that both of mine are doomed....lol

 

[jeepgrady]

I"m not in a colder climate. I'm in SC and the car is always in the garage.

 

[Silver LTZ]

The wife's had made some odd noises as well. We never really use it since the range is so terrible anyway.

 

[chevyguy8893]

I use mine all the time during the winter, but I haven't heard any odd noises yet. I am curious to to see what the outcome of the problem is if mine start to make noise.

 

[elcompaLalo]

Sounds like its more of a wear and tear issue then.

 

[08chevymalibultz]

Believe it or not, I heard a Squeak/Scrap sound this afternoon when I started the Malibu with the R/S for a Second or two an then it stopped! I had been driving my truck for the last day or two so I decided to start the Malibu and let it run for five minutes or so because it has been really cold here! Note: After I heard that sound I decided to let it run for the full cycle until the car had turned off by it's self! I wanted to make sure the battery was charged good enough considering the cold weather might have an effect on it! The update that has been done on my Malibu has taken care of the other noise completely but I will have to listen and see if it was just a one time thing because of the cold weather!


PS. I had restarted the Malibu about fifteen minutes later and it did not make that sound again! It had to be weather/temperature related with a rough start!

 

[Silver LTZ]

Sounds like its more of a wear and tear issue then.

Doubtful, ours has made the noise on and off from day 1. Dealer said it is "normal" LOL....


Next time we have to bring the car in (which I am sure will be soon) I will have it addressed again.

 

[budman65]

I don't know what you mean by range problems. My RS will start the car from several hundred feet away. If I can see the car, I can start it. Yes, my 09 2LT V6 makes a lot of noise on really cold mornings and not when it's warm, so I would assume it's the outside temp being a major factor. I guess I'll call the dealership too and see what's up?

 

[Silver LTZ]

I don't know what you mean by range problems. My RS will start the car from several hundred feet away. If I can see the car, I can start it.

Exactly, that kinda sucks. The remote start I had installed on my old G6 GTP worked from like a 1/4 mile away. I could be in my office in a brick building and it would start. When I was using the Malibu, like you said you have to see it for it to work. Defeats the purpose if you ask me. Heck, even the salesman who we bought the car from said they sucked....I agree. If you had a good aftermarket one you would know what I was talking about, and we have discussed it on here as well.

 

[budman65]

If you cant' see the car How do you know that it even started unless you have the two way extended range remote? For all you know your car could be on fire and you wouldn't have a clue. One would think that the manufacturer would would want the consumer to have the car in visible range so they could monitor what's going on? I know that I would; if anything else to notice problems like the ones posted in this thread? If the range was too good, you could be unlocking the car with the key fob in you front pocket unknowingly giving access to everyone passing by. I don't know about you, but I would hate to lose all of my valuables. Of course, that's just my opinion.

 

[Bedbug]

Re: Remote start scrape sound ***UPDATE****

Ok I brought the car in to the dealer yesterday. I tell the service writer about the scrape noise I was Having and the Brakes squeaking.

I specifically tell him it happens first thing on a cold morning using the remote start. So what does this ass do -- he remote starts it right then and there and of course hes skeptical. So I got pissed off, I took the car parked in their lot and took my keys and left.

I went home got the post from 08Chevymalibultz printed it out and went back this am. Now I grab that wise-ass service writer put him right near the car, ( and today was a great morning for it cause it snowed then rained and the car is covered with a sheet of ice), and I start the car and there it is the scrape sound. Now the guy tells me "wow this is a new one on me, I wonder how they are going to fix it"

Now I pull out the paper work from 08chevymalibultz post and tell heim here you go. I also showed him proof of the brake squeak. Now he has nothing to say.

While I was starting the car two other malibu owners complained about the samething, and said the service department did nothing about it the last time the car was in for service, now they are demanding theirs gets fixed too.

The service writer conceeded at that point and gave me a 2010 chevy Aveo to drive around. Not a bad little car.

I will keep you posted about what did when I pick it up -- Stayed tuned.

 

[08chevymalibultz]

Re: Remote start scrape sound ***UPDATE****

Ok I brought the car in to the dealer yesterday. I tell the service writer about the scrape noise I was Having and the Brakes squeaking.

I specifically tell him it happens first thing on a cold morning using the remote start. So what does this ass do -- he remote starts it right then and there and of course hes skeptical. So I got pissed off, I took the car parked in their lot and took my keys and left.

I went home got the post from 08Chevymalibultz printed it out and went back this am. Now I grab that wise-ass service writer put him right near the car, ( and today was a great morning for it cause it snowed then rained and the car is covered with a sheet of ice), and I start the car and there it is the scrape sound. Now the guy tells me "wow this is a new one on me, I wonder how they are going to fix it"

Now I pull out the paper work from 08chevymalibultz post and tell heim here you go. I also showed him proof of the brake squeak. Now he has nothing to say.

While I was starting the car two other malibu owners complained about the samething, and said the service department did nothing about it the last time the car was in for service, now they are demanding theirs gets fixed too.

The service writer conceeded at that point and gave me a 2010 chevy Aveo to drive around. Not a bad little car.

I will keep you posted about what did when I pick it up -- Stayed tuned.

Most if not all Dealerships will not know about this fix unless they had contacted GM directly for a solution to correct this issue! I was lucky that my dealership knew the right person to talk to and the information that was given had corrected the issue! Maybe now there is some information for other dealership to pull-up by doing a little research for a TSB? Although I never got a Scrap Sound other than yesterday for a second and it never did it again! I have checked last night and today with the R/S and it never made that sound again, So I know it was weather/temperature related with a rough start that one time but you never know! I was at the point when I had started to loose faith in the guys at the Service Department before all my problems got fixed! One thing you want to do is try to talked to the Service Advisor and Techs with full respect but also direct your concerns strongly but politely. If this does not work, go to another dealership! These Problems are GM Errors and have some Dealerships scratching their heads trying to figure out the problem, which is not their fault! Hopefully your Dealership Service Department Advisor/Manager is willing to take the extra step and research for a possible TSB or Contact GM directly for a solution if they can't figure it out on their own!

Keep us updated. I really want to know if this corrects your problem or it was something else!

Good Luck!

 

[Silver LTZ]

If you cant' see the car How do you know that it even started unless you have the two way extended range remote? For all you know your car could be on fire and you wouldn't have a clue. One would think that the manufacturer would would want the consumer to have the car in visible range so they could monitor what's going on? I know that I would; if anything else to notice problems like the ones posted in this thread? If the range was too good, you could be unlocking the car with the key fob in you front pocket unknowingly giving access to everyone passing by. I don't know about you, but I would hate to lose all of my valuables. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Even if I can see it it won't always start. I'm not the only one who says it is crappy. Search on here and you will find many unhappy with it. If you are happy with it, good for you. I think it is not a good system....