[tdbowen1969]

Anyone have any tips on replacing the waterpump with the kit that come all put together? Like a video or easy to follow instructions? The manual I bought sent me here and there till I was ready to just remove whatever was in the way and throw the book away.

 

[JTR19]

The new pump in the second picture looks very different than the old pump in the fourth picture.

 

[DrivenDaily]

Indeed! The original pump has the impeller exposed when not installed. That new pump looks like it has a solid back on it, making it the type that is not mated to the block but is free-standing.

 

[1966tbird]

Indeed! The original pump has the impeller exposed when not installed. That new pump looks like it has a solid back on it, making it the type that is not mated to the block but is free-standing.

Are they interchangeable ? Is the second type preferable?

 

[DrivenDaily]

I would have to doubt that they are interchangeable. For some reason, very few engineers actually design their stuff to use existing parts that are proven to work well. They design brand new items and don't give a thought to making things work for multiple applications.

 

[JTR19]

I think I can safely say that you have purchased the wrong pump for that engine. I doubt there's any way you can make that work on your engine even if you try to disassemble it.

In the fourth picture I see this:

But looking at that new pump, I'm pretty sure there is no way to make that work here:

The fact that the new pump you have has a cover plate on the backside, where it should be open with the impeller visible, leads me to believe that you need a different pump part number.

 

[1966tbird]

Please let me ask this line of questions.
Where did you order your parts?
What part numbers did you order?
What part numbers did you receive?
Do you still have the boxes your new parts arrived in?

 

[tdbowen1969]

The new pump in the second picture looks very different than the old pump in the fourth picture.

The new one came all ready put on the housing along with the thermostat I just needed to get something off to feel like i accomplished something and I thought it would help with the rest of it. Im taking a brake from it after spending too long trying to find the right combination of tools to take the rest off I can feel all the bolts and even got a socket on one but then couldnt turn it with everything in the way.

 

[tdbowen1969]

I think I can safely say that you have purchased the wrong pump for that engine. I doubt there's any way you can make that work on your engine even if you try to disassemble it.

In the fourth picture I see this:
View attachment 72976

But looking at that new pump, I'm pretty sure there is no way to make that work here:
View attachment 72977

The fact that the new pump you have has a cover plate on the backside, where it should be open with the impeller visible, leads me to believe that you need a different pump part number.

I love how you did that! Thats the kind of manuals this guy needs lol.I would do it back if i new how. This first photo is what I took off just because it was in the way I believe its part of the turbo assembly.Its a small amount of oil.

 

[tdbowen1969]

here i tried show the rest of it and the thermostat is a few inches past where it looks like a hose attached.

 

[tdbowen1969]

Please let me ask this line of questions.
Where did you order your parts?
What part numbers did you order?
What part numbers did you receive?
Do you still have the boxes your new parts arrived in?

I do have the box still and the part numbers matched. here's the purchase order. It was O'riles.

 

[tdbowen1969]

On the back side of the gubbins is open and a gasket is on there also.

 

[DrivenDaily]

@tdbowen1969
I removed the image of the receipt in your previous post (#11) to keep your private info from being made public. You can do whatever you wish from this point on, including publishing your private info. We recommend that you hide any personal data when sharing pictures.

 

[JTR19]

OK, with the new pictures you added, now I have a better understanding. Now I think you do have the correct new water pump.

From this picture you posted:

That is the diverter valve for the turbocharger.

Seeing the new photos, I see that you removed the pump portion of the assembly, and still will need to remove the rest of it.

You are probably going to have to work on this from both the top side and the underside of the engine. In the picture above you need to remove the rest of the pump assembly with the bolts circled in purple. I'd bet that there is at least 2 similar bolts on the underside of the pump assy.

 

[DrivenDaily]

Wow, this is a wonderful example of an overly complex design!

 

[1966tbird]

Thanks so much folks love the info.
Is the 2.0L LDK the same or just similar?

 

[JTR19]

Is the 2.0L LDK the same or just similar?

It is similar, and looks to be easier to access/replace. It will be on the leading side of the motor, when you open the hood. The big difference between the LDK and the current 1.5 & 2.0 is that the LDK will have the intake manifold at the front of the engine bay, while the 1.5 and 2.0 have the exhaust manifold at the front of the engine bay. But the LDK has the water pump in the approximate same position, but higher up.

It is above the alternator, so a replacement can be accomplished from the top side.

 

[1966tbird]

@JTR19. Far out!
Do I see the cam driven hi-pres fuel pump in black? And what is the purpose of the ~3/8” hose barb aft of the yellow dip stick?
Again, thanks very much for the image it does tell me much. Do you have more say of the back side?

 

[tdbowen1969]

@tdbowen1969
I removed the image of the receipt in your previous post (#11) to keep your private info from being made public. You can do whatever you wish from this point on, including publishing your private info. We recommend that you hide any personal data when sharing pictures.

ok thank you

 

[tdbowen1969]

OK, with the new pictures you added, now I have a better understanding. Now I think you do have the correct new water pump.

From this picture you posted:
View attachment 72987
That is the diverter valve for the turbocharger.

Seeing the new photos, I see that you removed the pump portion of the assembly, and still will need to remove the rest of it.
View attachment 72988

You are probably going to have to work on this from both the top side and the underside of the engine. In the picture above you need to remove the rest of the pump assembly with the bolts circled in purple. I'd bet that there is at least 2 similar bolts on the underside of the pump assy.

Did you see the photo of the underside of wear the thermostat go's that's the only difference, do you know what the purpose of the hole is(weep hole?)